| --- | Log | opened Fri Mar 12 00:00:07 2010 |
| 00:00 | <amitz> | kewlbrzz: it's a rare occurence for me to be funny. yay! |
| 00:00 | <kewlbrzz> | Ok, I'll remember that |
| 00:01 | <astronut> | FYI, NAC does not have espn360 (not that i expected it to) |
| 00:01 | <Peng> | What is ESPN360? |
| 00:01 | <astronut> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN360 |
| 00:02 | <astronut> | streaming of many sports game (tons of college bball) for free, on an ISP-pays model |
| 00:03 | <astronut> | i guess i should have said "free" |
| 00:03 | <astronut> | espn360.com |
| 00:03 | <tjfontaine> | twc/rr isn't supposed to have it, but apparently my configuration at work gets around it, but at home no |
| 00:04 | * | astronut has TWC/RR at this apartment |
| 00:04 | <astronut> | hence the question of whether my linode had it |
| 00:04 | <astronut> | i used a different computer to bounce it through |
| 00:04 | <astronut> | i just (finally) got it working in linux |
| 00:04 | <tjfontaine> | with moonlight? |
| 00:04 | <astronut> | no |
| 00:04 | <tjfontaine> | is it silverlight or flash |
| 00:04 | <astronut> | it's movenetworks |
| 00:04 | <astronut> | which is ontop of flash |
| 00:05 | <tjfontaine> | ah |
| 00:05 | <astronut> | some DRM over flash |
| 00:05 | <astronut> | i run it in wine |
| 00:05 | <astronut> | turns out 1.0 doesn't work but 1.1x does |
| 00:05 | <tjfontaine> | via IE in wine? |
| 00:05 | <astronut> | but it F's up the linux color settings |
| 00:05 | <astronut> | FF in wine |
| 00:05 | <tjfontaine> | wow, sick :) |
| 00:05 | <astronut> | most people are apparently running it in xnest |
| 00:05 | <tjfontaine> | that has to be painful |
| 00:05 | <astronut> | but i found out that xgamma -gamma 1 resets my colors niceely |
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| 00:07 | <astronut> | but it's working well enough now |
| 00:07 | <astronut> | so i'm happy |
| 00:07 | <astronut> | right in time for the ACC tourney |
| 00:09 | <astronut> | still not quite working on my laptop but i figure i'll just copy my .wine over and it should |
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| 00:17 | <jtsage> | i take back everything bad i ever said about sound on a linux desktop. JACKd is seriously cool |
| 00:17 | <SelfishMan> | !ipinfo 64.12.117.9 |
| 00:17 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: IP: 64.12.117.9; rDNS: cache-mtc-ae05.proxy.aol.com; ASN adv net: 64.12.0.0/16; ASN: AS1668; ASN owner: AOL Transit Data Network; ASN reg: 1996-11-22; Country: US; Latitude: 38; Longitude: -97; UTC offset: -6; http://revip.info/lookup/64.12.117.9 |
| 00:17 | <SelfishMan> | orly |
| 00:19 | <JoeK> | yarly |
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| 00:21 | <SelfishMan> | revip.info I think you lie |
| 00:21 | <kewlbrzz> | Aloha SelfishMan |
| 00:24 | <kewlbrzz> | Hey SelfishMan Can I ask you a question since we are such good friends and all, If I get a Linode account will you help me set it up to host my 6 drupal websites |
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| 00:29 | <Talman> | Hmm, what's average round trip average for fremont to Chicago? |
| 00:29 | <Talman> | And is the fremont network back to normal? |
| 00:30 | <amitz> | 10 hours?depends on the method. |
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| 00:30 | * | amitz returns to lurking |
| 00:30 | <Talman> | in miliseconds via tcp. |
| 00:30 | <Talman> | And by aircraft it'd be about 4.5 |
| 00:31 | <Talman> | I'm getting an average of about 100. |
| 00:32 | <amitz> | 16,200,000 ms by aircraft |
| 00:32 | * | amitz returns to lurking |
| 00:33 | * | pparadis kisses amitz |
| 00:34 | <amitz> | pparadis: are you trying to kill me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Frog#Related_incidents |
| 00:34 | <amitz> | stay away! |
| 00:35 | * | pparadis creeps |
| 00:35 | <@pparadis> | c'mon you know you <3 me |
| 00:35 | * | amitz lurks |
| 00:35 | <amitz> | I love you platonically. |
| 00:35 | * | pparadis dresses amitz in a miniskirt and tight haltertop, then gets the camera. |
| 00:35 | <@pparadis> | oh and heels |
| 00:36 | <@pparadis> | black heels |
| 00:36 | <amitz> | lipstick, red cheery lipstick. |
| 00:36 | <@pparadis> | +1 good boy |
| 00:36 | * | pparadis goes back to coding |
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| 00:37 | * | amitz photographs pparadis photographs me. |
| 00:37 | <SelfishMan> | !avail-an |
| 00:37 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: Atlanta360 - 53, Atlanta540 - 22, Atlanta720 - 19, Atlanta1080 - 8, Atlanta1440 - 5, Atlanta2880 - 4, Atlanta5760 - 1, Atlanta8640 - 1, Atlanta11520 - 1, Atlanta14400 - 1 |
| 00:37 | <amitz> | Blackmail material (read: free linode) |
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| 00:38 | <@pparadis> | amitz: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=recursion |
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| 00:38 | <SelfishMan> | pparadis: I don't get it |
| 00:38 | <@pparadis> | lulz |
| 00:39 | <stefanie> | amitz: Remember I need him home before sunrise |
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| 00:39 | <amitz> | /msg stefanie I like pparadis better. |
| 00:40 | <@pparadis> | sub SelfishMan { my $haha = shift; unless (defined $haha) { $haah = 1; } for (0 .. $haha) { print "*"; } print "\n"; $haha++; &SelfishMan($haha); } |
| 00:40 | <@pparadis> | &SelfishMan(); |
| 00:40 | <amitz> | /msg pparadis I like stefanie better. |
| 00:41 | <stefanie> | amitz: fail |
| 00:41 | <amitz> | let me push THE BUTTON! |
| 00:41 | <mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 00:41 | <@pparadis> | i will have everyone here know that stefanie is presently making me two bacon/egg/cheese sandwiches, and a baby. |
| 00:41 | <stefanie> | I are multi-taker |
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| 00:42 | <@pparadis> | stefanie: that's certainly how you got preggers, multi-taking it from me.... |
| 00:42 | <stefanie> | pparadis forgets where his wife is... |
| 00:42 | <@pparadis> | oh no i know |
| 00:42 | <@pparadis> | it's all good |
| 00:42 | <stefanie> | so you think |
| 00:43 | * | pparadis knows that this is stefanie's house, he just pays for it |
| 00:44 | <stefanie> | also that I have a pan full of hot grease |
| 00:44 | <@pparadis> | that's hawt |
| 00:44 | <@Perihelion> | doit |
| 00:45 | <amitz> | do it! do it! |
| 00:45 | <@Perihelion> | YEAH |
| 00:46 | <stefanie> | I think I burnt myself |
| 00:46 | <@Perihelion> | That's what you get for threatening him |
| 00:46 | <@Perihelion> | Karma is a bitch |
| 00:46 | <@pparadis> | f'in win |
| 00:46 | <stefanie> | no, I'd burn myself anyway |
| 00:46 | <@pparadis> | #emo |
| 00:46 | <@pparadis> | !f emo |
| 00:46 | <Talman> | hmm, wonder why nagios isn't emailing me. |
| 00:46 | <linbot> | pparadis: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it |
| 00:46 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:46 | <stefanie> | lol |
| 00:46 | <Talman> | I have notify-service-by-email set, I have my email address set... |
| 00:47 | <@Perihelion> | WHY DOES EVERYTHING I TOUCH TURN TO SHIT ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-; |
| 00:48 | <elky> | If you'd stop eating everything you touch... |
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| 00:48 | <Talman> | >> what did she touch. |
| 00:49 | <@Perihelion> | elky: +1 |
| 00:49 | <kewlbrzz> | good point Elky |
| 00:50 | <amitz> | Perihelion++ <- just to help elky not being highlighted too often. |
| 00:50 | <Trystan> | stefanie: if you are a real multi ta(s)ker it will be twins. |
| 00:50 | <stefanie> | oh fuck no |
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| 00:50 | <Trystan> | yea i agree |
| 00:50 | <Trystan> | theres already enough pparadis as it is |
| 00:50 | <Trystan> | 2 more would be hell. |
| 00:50 | <kewlbrzz> | what does Las Vegas and a butthole have in common |
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| 00:51 | <kewlbrzz> | they are both a crap shoot |
| 00:51 | <elky> | kewlbrzz, so much more than you'll ever understand, clearly. |
| 00:51 | <kewlbrzz> | hhaha |
| 00:51 | <kewlbrzz> | I just wanted to throw that out there |
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| 00:57 | <stefanie> | These sandwiches are going make Phil chubby |
| 00:57 | <@Perihelion> | phil is a phatty :3 |
| 00:57 | <Trystan> | i think i should probably refrain from the tempting comment. |
| 00:57 | <@Perihelion> | I went there |
| 00:58 | * | pparadis dares Perihelion to try and outrun him |
| 00:58 | <@pparadis> | ain't gonna happen, i can go for at least 2 miles before i get winded enough to think about slowing the pace |
| 00:58 | <@pparadis> | :) |
| 00:58 | <@Perihelion> | Not if I trip you |
| 00:58 | <Trystan> | Perihelion: may i suggest a motorbike? |
| 00:58 | <@pparadis> | well, there is that, but that would require you to be ahead of me, which AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN |
| 00:59 | <Trystan> | ok, have been encouraged to share my dirty mind |
| 00:59 | <Trystan> | stefanie: hasnt phils chubbyness already caused you to get pregnant once? |
| 01:00 | <@Perihelion> | zomg. |
| 01:00 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 01:00 | <stefanie> | lol |
| 01:00 | <Trystan> | (if that does not make sense to you, over here chubby is slang for hardon) |
| 01:00 | <SelfishMan> | I was wondering how long it would be until that joke was made |
| 01:00 | <Trystan> | SelfishMan: instantly.. but i was being polite.. until Perihelion encouraged me! |
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| 01:02 | <stefanie> | Well, now Phil is over on his side of the table, groaning over his food. |
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| 01:02 | <@Perihelion> | HAR HAR PHIL IS HAVING HIS FILL OF FOOD |
| 01:02 | <@Perihelion> | k brb |
| 01:03 | <stefanie> | no really it's like food porn going on over there |
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| 01:06 | <@Perihelion> | It'll be nice when I can eat without my stomach being retarded again |
| 01:06 | <Trystan> | what you do? |
| 01:06 | <jcy`> | http://www.thisiswhyyourefat.com |
| 01:07 | <stefanie> | Perihelion: I know how you feel |
| 01:07 | <@Perihelion> | It's horrible. |
| 01:08 | <@Perihelion> | Like literally the only thing I can have without any issues is Gatorade |
| 01:08 | <stefanie> | my stomach is about the size of a softball at this point |
| 01:08 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 01:08 | <@Perihelion> | Well, soda too...but that's hardly filling lol |
| 01:08 | <@Perihelion> | Dunno, just sick of being sick ^_^ |
| 01:10 | <pharaun> | Perihelion: still sick? |
| 01:10 | <@Perihelion> | Not like I was before...the stomach thing is an ongoing issue |
| 01:10 | <jcy`> | i want to live inside this hamburger: http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/post/430501723/the-hickory-rancher-1-2-pound-beef-patty |
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| 01:14 | <stefanie> | I liked Paula Dean's Casserole, it ranks up there with her fried butter balls |
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| 01:15 | <amitz> | Perihelion: I believe stomach can be trained. Slow change to periodic good food will give the time for helper bacteria to develop. |
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| 01:16 | <@Perihelion> | It's been ongoing for years and no deit changes/remedies work |
| 01:16 | <@Perihelion> | diet* |
| 01:16 | <@Perihelion> | So I gave up |
| 01:16 | <amitz> | good food != 7-11 :-D |
| 01:16 | <jcy`> | did you try probiotic yogurt? |
| 01:16 | <@Perihelion> | But it doesnt stop me from bitching about it |
| 01:16 | <@Perihelion> | Yes |
| 01:16 | <@Perihelion> | and i havent been to 7-11 in ages |
| 01:16 | <amitz> | bbl |
| 01:16 | <@Perihelion> | but nothing else works...may as well get something quick |
| 01:17 | <jcy`> | i found that danactive worked really well for me |
| 01:17 | <@Perihelion> | the damage is the same no matter what xD |
| 01:17 | <@Perihelion> | I tried that for a while |
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| 01:27 | <jcy`> | my friend who has stomach and digest problems also recommended grapefruit seed extract. i haven't tried it myself but a lot of stuff he was complaining about over the years seems to have gone away after he started taking this: http://www.pureliquidgold.com/ |
| 01:28 | <wunjo> | Does Linode allow use the SSH tunnel? |
| 01:28 | <bob2> | yes, of course |
| 01:28 | <@Perihelion> | I don't do well with organic stuff either :< |
| 01:28 | <port80> | did he get the stomach problem before or after getting a linode? |
| 01:28 | <wunjo> | with portforwarding? |
| 01:29 | <bob2> | whatever you want |
| 01:29 | <wunjo> | thats what I thought |
| 01:29 | <bob2> | subject to the tos and aup of course |
| 01:29 | <@pparadis> | port80: s/he/she/ |
| 01:29 | <port80> | i had some trouble with installing php as a cgi-bin. any suggestions? |
| 01:29 | <bob2> | trouble = what |
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| 01:29 | <port80> | gentoo 2008 linode, no stack scripts |
| 01:30 | <bob2> | /topic no one else can see your screen or read your mind, explain what you actually did + pastebin all output |
| 01:30 | <port80> | it wouldn't let me hardlink /usr/local/apache2/bin/cgi-bin to php |
| 01:30 | <bob2> | you can't hardlink dirs |
| 01:30 | <bob2> | and in this case, trying to do so is insane |
| 01:31 | <port80> | i was just reading the fine manual. |
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| 01:31 | <bob2> | you need to provide that url too |
| 01:31 | <port80> | k |
| 01:33 | <Talman> | I am happy. |
| 01:34 | <Talman> | nagios is green across the board. |
| 01:34 | <port80> | http://php.net/manual/en/security.cgi-bin.php under heading 13-Jun-2004 03:26 |
| 01:34 | <port80> | bob2 get that? |
| 01:35 | <bob2> | that's not the command it told you to run |
| 01:35 | <bob2> | do you really want to run php via CGI with apache? |
| 01:36 | <port80> | trying to. the beauty of these lineodes, they take like 5 minutes to install a new one. |
| 01:36 | <port80> | do you advise against it? |
| 01:36 | <bob2> | why on earth would you want to do that? |
| 01:37 | <port80> | people do it all the time. i have my reasons. (not to be published) |
| 01:37 | <bob2> | uh-huh |
| 01:37 | <bob2> | the instructions given there should work |
| 01:38 | <port80> | well ill give it another try. |
| 01:39 | <bob2> | you need to run the commands it gives |
| 01:39 | <bob2> | not combinations of them |
| 01:39 | <port80> | right |
| 01:40 | <bob2> | (and it is unlikely cgi is a sensible solution for your secret problem) |
| 01:40 | <Talman> | >> What would running php via cgi... do? |
| 01:41 | <bob2> | good question! |
| 01:41 | <bob2> | it would make every page slower to load |
| 01:41 | <Talman> | Would it allow you to run the php script as a different user or something? |
| 01:41 | <bob2> | it could, but you could do lots of more sensible things to achieve that goal |
| 01:41 | <bob2> | and the above example does not do that |
| 01:42 | <SelfishMan> | wanting to run php as a cgi usually means one of three things |
| 01:42 | <Talman> | which are? |
| 01:43 | <elky> | how on earth does thisiswhyyourefat.com not have the roadtrain burger? |
| 01:43 | <SelfishMan> | You are reading a really old howto that should have been deleted years ago, you want to be hacked |
| 01:43 | <Talman> | What's a roadtrain burger? |
| 01:43 | <SelfishMan> | or you are a moran |
| 01:43 | <elky> | Talman, google it. |
| 01:43 | <Talman> | Is a moran related to a moron? |
| 01:44 | <SelfishMan> | !f moran |
| 01:44 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: Screw you, SelfishMan |
| 01:44 | <Talman> | Will I want to make this burger? |
| 01:44 | <SelfishMan> | hmm... |
| 01:44 | <Talman> | dude, linbot will never listen to you. |
| 01:44 | <Talman> | !f moran |
| 01:44 | <linbot> | Talman: Results not found. I'm pretty sure straterra ate them |
| 01:44 | <elky> | Talman, yes. yes you will. |
| 01:44 | <jcy`> | http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/f/f/get_a_brain_morans.jpg |
| 01:44 | <SelfishMan> | that is one variation of moran |
| 01:44 | <Talman> | Ah, some kind of aussie thing. |
| 01:44 | <jcy`> | i always thought that was the origin of that meme |
| 01:45 | <Talman> | Jesus CHRIST, elky. |
| 01:45 | <StevenK> | Yes, that website is making me ill |
| 01:45 | <elky> | Talman, i no, rite |
| 01:45 | <elky> | StevenK, yeah, it'll do that. |
| 01:45 | * | StevenK closes it before he reviews his lunch |
| 01:46 | * | elky really doesn't get this fixation on mixing bacon with perfectly good stuff like chocolate |
| 01:46 | <Talman> | Most of this stuff looks unappetizing. |
| 01:46 | <Talman> | Also, the cheddar pour is simply a waste of cheese. |
| 01:46 | <mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 01:46 | <StevenK> | elky: Because adding bacon is win |
| 01:46 | <mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 01:46 | <SelfishMan> | bacon makes everything moar better |
| 01:46 | <mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 01:46 | <SelfishMan> | bacon |
| 01:46 | <SelfishMan> | bacon |
| 01:46 | <SelfishMan> | dammit |
| 01:46 | <StevenK> | ckae |
| 01:46 | <StevenK> | Sigh! |
| 01:46 | <StevenK> | cake |
| 01:46 | <elky> | is a lie! |
| 01:47 | <StevenK> | Did mikegrb remove that trigger? |
| 01:47 | <SelfishMan> | nah, rate limiting |
| 01:47 | <Talman> | Ah, Paula Deen. |
| 01:47 | <Talman> | That woman isn't the reason you're fat, she's the reason you're gonna die swimming in butter. |
| 01:47 | <Talman> | Most of this stuff is simply unappetizing. |
| 01:48 | <elky> | I know. |
| 01:48 | <jtsage> | http://gizmodo.com/5490088/infographic-the-power-of-the-death-star-vs-power-of-the-force |
| 01:48 | <elky> | Sometimes, if I'm feeling hungry, I'll open that wesbite... |
| 01:49 | <Talman> | Hey, fuck these guys. |
| 01:49 | <Talman> | Those pizza hut hershey's chocolate dunkers are good. |
| 01:49 | <Talman> | And you're not supposed to eat the entire god damne'd box. |
| 01:50 | <Talman> | And I see they have the funnel fries. |
| 01:50 | <elky> | Well, for most of that stuff to exist, there has to be someone who thinks it's a good idea. |
| 01:50 | <Talman> | The only thing appetizing in this, so far, is the commercially created food like Pizza Hut and Burger King. |
| 01:51 | <Talman> | >.> Where does McDonalds sell Holiday Pies? |
| 01:51 | <StevenK> | Does it also reference a Bacon Explosion? |
| 01:52 | <mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 01:52 | <elky> | The mars bar cake looks reasonable too... |
| 01:52 | <StevenK> | elky: No fair using that website for cooking/baking ideas |
| 01:52 | <Talman> | >.> Ok, the Japanese are kinda weird. |
| 01:52 | <Talman> | Strawberry yogurt glazed cheetos. |
| 01:52 | <elky> | Talman, you're only just noticing this? |
| 01:53 | <Talman> | I don't do their food much. :) |
| 01:53 | <Talman> | ALthough, green tea kitkat bars are kinda good. |
| 01:54 | <Talman> | There's not a god damned thing wrong with the crispy potato soft taco. |
| 01:54 | <elky> | pocky is decent also |
| 01:54 | <Talman> | Its potato, lettuce, and about 3 pieces of cheese. |
| 01:54 | <Talman> | Unless potato makes you fat. |
| 01:54 | <jcy`> | japanese mayonnaise is the best |
| 01:54 | <Talman> | Pocky is ok, I like strawyberry pocky. |
| 01:54 | <elky> | I'll second that, jcy` |
| 01:54 | <jcy`> | next time you're at the jap grocery store, buy some, you'll never go back to hellman's |
| 01:54 | <Talman> | japanese mayonase I have no had, but I understand it goes with everything. |
| 01:55 | <elky> | pretty much |
| 01:55 | <Talman> | I know this one Japanese woman on the cruise ship I knew was continiously fustrated with the food. |
| 01:55 | <port80> | just give me my miracle whip. |
| 01:55 | <jcy`> | she probably wanted whale sushi |
| 01:55 | <Talman> | She wouldn't touch the sushi on the ship, and neither would I. I tried it. |
| 01:55 | <Talman> | The rice tasted odd. |
| 01:56 | <Talman> | My English friend was all, "You like Japan and stuff and you don't even like sushi!" And then she replied," This sushi is horrible, I would not eat it either." |
| 01:56 | <jcy`> | once you've had jap mayo, you will enjoy it for minutes and then give a little sob when you realize that you've lead a life of culinary ignorance |
| 01:57 | <Talman> | I'm noticing a lot of these pictures are just random ingredients rednecks threw together, or the Japanese. |
| 01:57 | <Talman> | Or the French Canadians. |
| 01:58 | <elky> | yeah, the poutine lovers seem to be at fault for like a quarter of this stuff |
| 01:58 | <Talman> | Cheese Steak sushi sounds kinda good, actually. |
| 01:58 | <Talman> | But, honestly, I'd just make myself a cheesesteak and be done with it. |
| 01:59 | <elky> | http://26.media.tumblr.com/i2dw5nf19or3ab9gjUKy9G1no1_500.jpg <-- nothing wrong with this. |
| 02:00 | <Talman> | ITS WHY U R FAT! LOLOL |
| 02:00 | <Talman> | Ok, this is real. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_koow3381ET1qzvnxpo1_500.jpg |
| 02:00 | <Talman> | The KFC Double Down Sammich. |
| 02:01 | <elky> | Oh god. Twinkie sushi. Please tell me this is a real thing in the world. |
| 02:01 | <Talman> | My GF said these were ok. http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/photo/1280/160598281/1/i2dw5nf19k0w195lPjZaba8j <- McDonalds Japan. |
| 02:02 | <Talman> | Also noted that Japanese Teriayki is nothing like ours. I could of told her that, and I'm not Japanese. |
| 02:02 | <Talman> | Also, toasted ravoli... this sounds familiar, I think I've had this. |
| 02:03 | <Talman> | http://24.media.tumblr.com/i2dw5nf19py2qwkvnTXet2NAo1_500.jpg |
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| 02:13 | <amitz> | japanese authenticate food taste good but expensive :-( |
| 02:13 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 02:13 | <jess^> | authenticate lol |
| 02:13 | <jess^> | basic or NTLM? |
| 02:13 | * | irgeek loves him some spicy NTLM roll |
| 02:14 | <jess^> | irgeek: you++ |
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| 02:15 | <amitz> | :-p |
| 02:15 | <amitz> | damn, fail in translation :-p |
| 02:16 | <SelfishMan> | urmom failed in translation |
| 02:16 | <amitz> | I thought the original phrase is in english :-p |
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| 02:17 | <amitz> | ah, authentic! |
| 02:17 | <mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 02:17 | <wunjo> | I like the Big mac with the egg and bacon |
| 02:18 | <wunjo> | feed a 3rd world family with that burger for a week |
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| 02:22 | <Smark> | Anyone here have experience with freelance web design? I have a few questions about splitting up profits with a partner. |
| 02:23 | <wunjo> | Yes Smark |
| 02:23 | <wunjo> | Im a web D |
| 02:23 | <Smark> | may I PM you? |
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| 02:24 | <wunjo> | of course |
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| 02:57 | <SelfishMan> | !avail-an |
| 02:57 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: Atlanta360 - 52, Atlanta540 - 22, Atlanta720 - 19, Atlanta1080 - 8, Atlanta1440 - 5, Atlanta2880 - 3, Atlanta5760 - 1, Atlanta8640 - 1, Atlanta11520 - 1, Atlanta14400 - 1 |
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| 02:58 | <@Perihelion> | !avail-he |
| 02:58 | <linbot> | Perihelion: Fremont360 - 66, Fremont540 - 33, Fremont720 - 29, Fremont1080 - 4, Fremont1440 - 3, Fremont2880 - 0, Fremont5760 - 0 |
| 02:58 | <@Perihelion> | ye |
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| 02:59 | <SelfishMan> | ? |
| 03:01 | <@Perihelion> | I was just checking...friend of mine wants to buy one there and I said I'd check then got sidetracked with iTunes |
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| 03:29 | <AlexC_> | morning |
| 03:29 | <AlexC_> | what sort/speed of internet connection does Linode use? (if specific to DC, then London) |
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| 03:32 | <chesty> | 1 internet/second |
| 03:33 | <AlexC_> | excellent, and how many internets can I download per day? |
| 03:33 | <chesty> | how many seconds in a day? |
| 03:33 | <AlexC_> | so there is no limit? |
| 03:34 | <chesty> | well you have a cap, and if you exceed it you have to pay extra |
| 03:34 | <chesty> | you can burn though the cap in hours if you're not careful |
| 03:34 | <AlexC_> | :P I know. But seriously, any idea on the connection speed? |
| 03:35 | <chesty> | 1 gig to the hosts, not sure about anything else |
| 03:35 | <chesty> | 50Mbps upload limit |
| 03:35 | <chesty> | which can be raised |
| 03:36 | <AlexC_> | ok thanks |
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| 03:42 | <AlexC_> | you say the hosts have a 1gig line, I take it that is shared/split between the linodes - so it would be reduced? |
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| 03:43 | <SelfishMan> | The exact uplink is not publicly disclosed |
| 03:44 | <SelfishMan> | but you will not have a bandwidth contention issue |
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| 03:51 | <bob2> | spoiler: you're not popular enough to max it! |
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| 03:54 | <amitz> | I wonder how much bandwitdth did goatse consume at that time. |
| 03:54 | <amitz> | ? |
| 03:54 | <aunull> | I usually get about 3mb/s |
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| 03:56 | <AlexC_> | SelfishMan, bob2 yeah I'm not worried about using it all up, I'm just wondering as one of my other servers (not with Linode) is on a 100mb connection and gets download speeds of around 500kbs - so I wanted to know what Linode was on to compare |
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| 03:56 | <bob2> | no, linode's not shit |
| 03:56 | <AlexC_> | I know, I've been with them for over a year |
| 03:56 | <bob2> | :) |
| 03:57 | <SelfishMan> | It doesn't matter what the actual connection speed is |
| 03:57 | <SelfishMan> | what matters is how they shape the traffic and how much contention there is |
| 03:57 | <AlexC_> | it's just our office here, same ISP is on a 3mb line and we get 350kbs - and yet our servers 5 miles away same ISP on this apparrant 100mb line gets 500kbs |
| 03:58 | <SelfishMan> | The other provider may very well have a 100Mbps connection to their provider but only pays for 5Mbit |
| 04:00 | <AlexC_> | well, boss will not be happy if that is the case :) |
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| 05:34 | <ddupin> | hi |
| 05:35 | <ddupin> | is there some trouble on linode VPS, i can't contact my hosted VPS |
| 05:36 | <amitz> | what do you mean by contact? what error message? |
| 05:36 | <@Perihelion> | I'm assuming you're the one who just emailed? :) |
| 05:36 | <ddupin> | yeah after i see there irc :p |
| 05:36 | <ddupin> | :D |
| 05:37 | <ddupin> | amitz: no ssh or web service so shutdown :p |
| 05:39 | <@Perihelion> | Are you able to access it through the AJAX terminal? |
| 05:40 | <ddupin> | i'm at work so it says my IP is not in authorized IP list :p |
| 05:40 | <ddupin> | so i cant ^^ |
| 05:40 | <@Perihelion> | :( |
| 05:40 | <ddupin> | when enable i see that it send mail but don't disallow to access web admin |
| 05:41 | <ddupin> | when enable IP auth on the web admin* |
| 05:41 | <@Perihelion> | See PM |
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| --- | Log | opened Fri Mar 12 06:00:42 2010 |
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| 06:00 | -!- | Irssi: #linode: Total of 312 nicks [8 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 304 normal] |
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| 06:05 | <@Perihelion> | haxed |
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| 06:30 | <SirSquidness> | bad Perihelion , no hacking! |
| 06:30 | <@Perihelion> | DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO RAWRRRRRRRRR >:3 |
| 06:31 | <SirSquidness> | OK DUN HURT ME! D= |
| 06:31 | <@Perihelion> | <3 |
| 06:31 | <SirSquidness> | <3 |
| 06:31 | <@Perihelion> | I love sea critters. |
| 06:31 | <SirSquidness> | Well it's your lucky day, because I have sea critters a plenty for sale! :P |
| 06:31 | -!- | Perihelion is now known as Octopus |
| 06:31 | <@Octopus> | Hell yes. |
| 06:31 | * | SirSquidness high 5s Octopus |
| 06:31 | <@Octopus> | ^5 |
| 06:31 | <G> | Octopus: morning |
| 06:32 | <@Octopus> | Good morning, G. |
| 06:32 | <G> | tjfontaine: you work at Linode now? |
| 06:32 | <@Octopus> | I have to resist the urge to type "money fresh" after your nick |
| 06:32 | <@Octopus> | I just thought you should know |
| 06:32 | <SirSquidness> | haha |
| 06:32 | <@Octopus> | And no, he just gets opped on join because he's special or something |
| 06:33 | <SirSquidness> | He's an oper or something on the server, isn't he? |
| 06:33 | <@Octopus> | Yar |
| 06:33 | <G> | Octopus: but I'm G from da hood :P |
| 06:33 | <@Octopus> | G MONEY FRESH WHAT IT DO PLAYA?!?!?! |
| 06:33 | <@Octopus> | Or something. |
| 06:34 | <SirSquidness> | yo homie g! |
| 06:34 | <@Octopus> | chyeah s0n |
| 06:34 | <SirSquidness> | 'know what Im sayin', yo? |
| 06:34 | <@Octopus> | Brb re-whitening |
| 06:35 | <G> | SirSquidness: heh |
| 06:37 | <@Octopus> | It's raining. WHY |
| 06:37 | <@Octopus> | WHYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 06:37 | <@Octopus> | Life is determined to keep me inside. |
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| 06:44 | <G> | Octopus: can you send some of that rain to me? |
| 06:44 | <@Octopus> | >:3 |
| 06:44 | -!- | Perihelion is now known as Guest641 |
| 06:44 | -!- | Octopus is now known as Perihelion |
| 06:44 | <@Perihelion> | OIC |
| 06:44 | -!- | Perihelion is now known as Octopus |
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| 06:44 | <@Octopus> | :3 |
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| 06:44 | <@Octopus> | Sure...come get it. |
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| 06:46 | <G> | Octopus: so, when are you giving us all $100 notes? |
| 06:46 | <@Octopus> | Nevar. |
| 06:47 | <atma1> | hi all |
| 06:47 | <czr> | you could start handing out zimbabwean notes |
| 06:48 | <atma1> | rapidleech & torrent suporte linode ? |
| 06:49 | <SirSquidness> | yay rain! \o/ |
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| 06:49 | <atma1> | what internet speed on linode ? what KB/S |
| 06:50 | <@Octopus> | We don't support copyright infringement, so if you plan on torrenting movies and such you'll be in violation of the terms of service |
| 06:50 | <@Octopus> | That said, if you're torrenting linux iso files and such then it's okay |
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| 06:51 | <atma1> | oojacoboo hmm so linode vps whit copyright !!? |
| 06:51 | <oojacoboo> | ? |
| 06:51 | <atma1> | oojacoboo i want fo movie :P |
| 06:51 | <oojacoboo> | ? |
| 06:52 | <czr> | there seems to be some distrubance in the internets. |
| 06:52 | <atma1> | for DL movie on vps |
| 06:52 | <czr> | and my keyboard |
| 06:52 | <oojacoboo> | yes, so, it seems czr |
| 06:52 | <@Octopus> | atma1: No, copyright infringement is a violation of the terms of service. |
| 06:54 | <atma1> | oojacoboo uhum thx so i can DL movie from share hostin on my linode vps |
| 06:54 | <atma1> | oojacoboo thx |
| 06:54 | <oojacoboo> | atma1: fuck off |
| 06:54 | <@Octopus> | You can't use Linode to torrent... |
| 06:55 | <atma1> | oojacoboo oh shit :( |
| 06:55 | <oojacoboo> | atma1: I don't know what you are saying |
| 06:56 | <oojacoboo> | also not quite sure you pinged me |
| 06:57 | <atma1> | ok |
| 06:59 | <Yaakov> | I USE MY LINODE FOR LOVE PURPOSES |
| 07:01 | * | SirSquidness shares some love with Yaakov |
| 07:01 | <czr> | or COBOL. |
| 07:02 | <@Octopus> | I use my Linode for world domination. |
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| 07:02 | <goose> | who here wants to be my friend? |
| 07:02 | <SirSquidness> | Octopus: need a hand with world domination? |
| 07:02 | <Yaakov> | I think you need to upgrade. |
| 07:02 | <@Octopus> | I DO |
| 07:03 | * | Octopus upgrades Yaakov's face |
| 07:03 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 07:03 | <SirSquidness> | lol pwnd. |
| 07:03 | <Yaakov> | I already have a fully tricked out face, sorry. |
| 07:04 | * | czr uses urmumz linode |
| 07:04 | <chesty> | they are wrinkles, not pinstripes |
| 07:05 | <chesty> | and they're a pimple breakout, not flames |
| 07:07 | <chesty> | should i go down stairs and see what's taking the server reboot so long, or should i stay in bed and assume it's a fsck? |
| 07:07 | <SirSquidness> | bed. |
| 07:07 | <SirSquidness> | Definitely bed. |
| 07:07 | <SirSquidness> | If it's dead, it'll still be dead in the morning. |
| 07:08 | <chesty> | i want to use it noaw |
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| 07:13 | <chesty> | never understood why ext3 needs to be fscked |
| 07:13 | <@Octopus> | It just wants to be loved. |
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| 07:24 | <chesty> | fired |
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| 07:27 | <czr> | chesty, to check structural integrity in case it's borked? |
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| 07:33 | <amitz> | her structural integrity. |
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| 07:50 | <jas4711> | hm, is atlanta having troubles? my machine was off the net for a few minutes and I can hardly access it now |
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| 07:58 | <amitz> | it's houston that usually got trouble |
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| 08:21 | <HoopyCat> | i use my linode to warez teh beefs |
| 08:23 | <stan_theman> | jas4711: are you still experiencing any issues? |
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| 08:23 | <jas4711> | stan_theman, nope it went away. i opened a ticket about it but not sure if it had any correlation |
| 08:24 | <stan_theman> | jas4711: there was a hiccup in atlanta, everything should be back to normal now |
| 08:24 | <jas4711> | stan_theman, ok, thanks. network related or host related? |
| 08:25 | <stan_theman> | jas4711: network, within the atlanta facility |
| 08:25 | <jas4711> | stan_theman, ok thanks for info. good test of our nagios checks :) |
| 08:25 | <stan_theman> | :) |
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| 09:26 | <JshWright> | All I want is a laptop with an i5-530m, 4GB RAM, no dedicated graphics, and a decent screen... is that really too much to ask for? |
| 09:26 | <JshWright> | erm... s/530/520/ |
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| 09:43 | <vsnine> | digg this please, one of my coworkers has suffered a terrible loss: http://digg.com/people/Box_Sean_Lowery_Friends_of_Box_John_Dell |
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| 09:45 | <jforman_> | hmm issues in atlanta/on atlanta89? cant get to my node, maybe within the past 1-2 minutes |
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| 09:46 | <JshWright> | !mtr-newark atlanta89.linode.com |
| 09:46 | <linbot> | JshWright: [mtr] atlanta89.linode.com: 8 hops, ???: 100.0%/0.0ms |
| 09:46 | <jforman_> | sweet |
| 09:46 | <jforman_> | yeah, trying the ajax console times out too" |
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| 09:48 | <jforman_> | !mtr-newark atlanta104.linode.com |
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| 09:48 | <linbot> | jforman_: timed out |
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| 09:49 | <bobby> | hi, is atlanta54 and atlanta85 down? |
| 09:50 | <JshWright> | Atlanta seems to be seeing a DC wide issue |
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| 09:51 | <Picipod> | I was just able to get reconnected to atlanta34 |
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| 09:51 | <bobby> | Picipod, were you able before? |
| 09:51 | <JshWright> | !mtr-newark atlanta89.linode.com |
| 09:51 | <linbot> | JshWright: timed out |
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| 09:52 | <Picipod> | bobby: I lost my connection for a few minutes and then it came back. |
| 09:52 | <jforman_> | last few hops into atlanta look like http://p.linode.com/3609 |
| 09:52 | <jforman_> | it looks like atlanta might be happy now. i was just able to get back into my node there |
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| 09:52 | <bobby> | atlanta85.linode.com still unresponsive |
| 09:52 | <jforman_> | hmm |
| 09:53 | <bobby> | just tried ping |
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| 09:55 | <bobby> | seems to be back now |
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| 09:55 | <@jed> | we are currently looking at issues in atlanta |
| 09:55 | <@jed> | hang tight folks |
| 09:55 | <Picipod> | Thanks :) |
| 09:55 | <bobby> | Thanks Jed |
| 09:55 | <jforman_> | jed, can we hang tight onto you? |
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| 09:57 | <Pici> | There we go. |
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| 09:57 | <Daevien> | jforman: he doesn't shower regular, you might not want to |
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| 10:02 | <amitz> | JshWright: what's the price for that? |
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| 10:02 | <JshWright> | price for what? |
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| 10:02 | <amitz> | that notebook. US$900? |
| 10:03 | <JshWright> | I dunno, I haven't found one yet |
| 10:03 | <@jed> | atlanta should be coming back to normal guys, sorry for the trouble -- we've been informed there was a power issue in the facility affecting some gear upstream of us, your linodes are fine -- just didn't have network for a bit |
| 10:03 | <@jed> | we're monitoring, thanks for hanging in there |
| 10:03 | <JshWright> | I'd expect somewhere in the $800-$1000 range |
| 10:04 | <goose> | http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html |
| 10:04 | <JshWright> | the problem is that the i5-520 is an "upgraded" chip, and so models with the the 520 tend to have a discrete graphics card, which is just a battery drain for me... |
| 10:04 | <Pici> | Someone in atlanta tells me they're having bad weather there. |
| 10:04 | <amitz> | if you buy the chinese version, it seems the price is cheaper. But I don't know the duty to your country from china. |
| 10:04 | <@jed> | Pici: possibly related, we noted that too |
| 10:04 | <amitz> | ^^ general impression, may be inaccurate |
| 10:05 | <jforman> | jed: users are better than any monitoring system. i've noticed that here, i get phone calls before my nagios alerts come in |
| 10:05 | <@jed> | jforman: for us it was the other way around |
| 10:05 | <@jed> | I've observed what you describe before, though :) |
| 10:05 | <jforman> | heh |
| 10:06 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 10:06 | <Daevien> | whats annoying is when your nagios machine crashes & burns lol |
| 10:07 | <jforman> | Daevien: here at my office we wrote a new monitoring framework, that basically just uses nagios for UI/display. nagios internals couldnt handle what we were throwing at it |
| 10:07 | <Pici> | It scares me when we find an issue here that a user hasn't reported yet. |
| 10:07 | <amitz> | oh wait, you want 530, not 430. |
| 10:07 | <pharaun> | Daevien: naw you just need a RAID array of Nagios machine ;) |
| 10:07 | <JshWright> | amitz: yeah, the 430s are everywhere, it's the 520s that are tough to find without a bunch of other crap I don't need |
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| 10:15 | <Daevien> | pharaun: heh yeah. at this point though, i dont even have a nagios machine. not running servers or working in that environment right now, theres nothing much fo rthat in this shitty small town. i'm the staples easytech at a retail store. (ugh). better than fast food i guess, though doesn't really pay much better |
| 10:15 | <@jed> | make |
| 10:15 | <@jed> | BAH |
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| 10:17 | <Laurenn> | http://i33.tinypic.ath.cx/D1268406639.jpg/ do my breasts look to big? |
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| 10:17 | <JshWright> | Silly Laurenn, she should have used "too", rather than "to" |
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| 10:18 | <amitz> | yay, change of pattern. My amitzz is safe :-D |
| 10:18 | <cho> | Laurenn's breasts look illiterate |
| 10:18 | <TheFirst> | JshWright: chase the spammer .. punish them for bad grammer :P |
| 10:20 | <amitz> | perhaps the spamemr thought irc kicking works like spam filter :-p |
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| 10:23 | <rosetta> | what is the recommanded size of SWAP. We have Linode 540 |
| 10:24 | <@irgeek> | 256MB |
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| 10:35 | <jcy`> | sort of annoying that the i7 860 is a better proc than the i7 920 but costs the same |
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| 10:41 | <Solver> | then just get the better proc? :) |
| 10:43 | <JshWright> | Solver... livin' up to his nick |
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| 10:50 | <goose> | <Pici> Someone in atlanta tells me they're having bad weather there. <--we are |
| 10:51 | <goose> | or we were last night, lots of thunder, lightening, and rain |
| 10:51 | <goose> | no rain so far this morning, but some good thunder earlier |
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| 10:56 | <tcsh> | was there another atlanta outage last night? |
| 10:56 | <JshWright> | there was an outage this morning |
| 10:56 | <JshWright> | (network outage) |
| 10:56 | <JshWright> | (upstream) |
| 10:56 | <JshWright> | (fyi) |
| 10:56 | <JshWright> | ;) |
| 10:56 | <dKingston> | libra nos, Domine. |
| 10:57 | <tcsh> | atlanta dc is multihoming right? |
| 10:57 | <JshWright> | the outage was internal to the DC, but upstream of Linode's stuff |
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| 11:00 | <tcsh> | Are these kinds out outages common? 2 in the last two days.. |
| 11:00 | <dKingston> | nah |
| 11:00 | <JshWright> | http://status.linode.com/ |
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| 11:00 | <JshWright> | (though I don't see the most recent Atlanta outage reported there) |
| 11:00 | <tcsh> | I looked at ... yes |
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| 11:03 | <rosetta> | is there a way to kill unused process.... |
| 11:03 | <Peng> | rosetta: Yes. |
| 11:04 | <straterra> | man kill |
| 11:04 | <straterra> | \O/ |
| 11:04 | * | Peng hits straterra |
| 11:04 | <straterra> | What? |
| 11:04 | <rosetta> | i know how to kill process |
| 11:04 | <Peng> | Oh? |
| 11:04 | <straterra> | Then retry the question |
| 11:04 | <Peng> | tcsh: It's just a coincidence that it happened to two of the facilities close together. Network outages aren't very frequent. |
| 11:06 | <Peng> | tcsh: And yes, they have multiple providers, though I don't know how redundant their internal hardware is. (Apparently not redundant enough...) |
| 11:06 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Clock drift! in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5282>; |
| 11:07 | <rosetta> | there's a bunch of process that drain memory and apparently keep (i see it when i do a 'top') the free RAM at a very low level. I want to ensure that those process wont keep sucking my ressources infinitly |
| 11:07 | <Peng> | rosetta: And what processes are these? |
| 11:07 | <rosetta> | i.e.: postgres |
| 11:07 | <Peng> | rosetta: Postgres wouldn't be running if there wasn't something using it. |
| 11:07 | <rosetta> | it keeps an instance of it when i log into console then logofff |
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| 11:07 | <rosetta> | i mean postgres console |
| 11:07 | <Peng> | rosetta: You should configure it properly and/or disable whatever software needs it. |
| 11:07 | <Peng> | Oh. Dunno about that. |
| 11:11 | <rosetta> | when i do a 'top' i see 13MB free memory....and can't figure out wich of the process is literaly eating my ressources... |
| 11:11 | <Peng> | !ram rosetta |
| 11:11 | <linbot> | http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 11:12 | <metap|pe_> | what does 'free -mt' show for the -/+ buffers/cache line? |
| 11:12 | <rosetta> | oh..so i'm a confusing newbie |
| 11:12 | <rosetta> | linuxatemymemory answers my question |
| 11:13 | <rosetta> | that was'nt the way i tought linux was managing the ram |
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| 11:15 | <goose> | where *is* the Atlanta DC? |
| 11:15 | <goose> | I wonder how far it is from my house |
| 11:15 | <pparadis> | goose: where is your house? |
| 11:15 | <goose> | pparadis: familiar with Atlanta? |
| 11:15 | <pparadis> | only lived there for 25 years |
| 11:16 | <goose> | :D |
| 11:16 | <pparadis> | :) |
| 11:16 | <goose> | near 120/Johnsons Ferry |
| 11:16 | <goose> | right inside Cobb, near the hooch |
| 11:16 | <goose> | <-- Walton Raider |
| 11:16 | <pparadis> | DC ain't close |
| 11:16 | <goose> | I work down in Clayton, though |
| 11:16 | <tcsh> | another wasitup alert on my atlanta node :/ |
| 11:16 | <goose> | so I drive all over the city going back and forth :p |
| 11:16 | <jforman> | heh, /me used to live in the druid hills area |
| 11:16 | <pparadis> | http://www.atlantanap.com/ |
| 11:17 | <pparadis> | jforman: i used live on n. druid hills down the street from lavista |
| 11:17 | <goose> | pparadis: how do you like that area? |
| 11:17 | <goose> | I'm looking at a house near there |
| 11:17 | <goose> | or did, rather |
| 11:17 | <pparadis> | decatur is really nice |
| 11:17 | <pparadis> | i miss it |
| 11:17 | <jforman> | <3 decatur farmers market. that place is incredible |
| 11:17 | <goose> | my best friend and roommate to be goes to Emory |
| 11:17 | <pparadis> | the whole emory area is awesome too, but super expensive |
| 11:17 | <goose> | so it works out for the both of us :p |
| 11:17 | <pparadis> | yah |
| 11:18 | <jforman> | pparadis: yes. i only had to deal with rent there for about 2 years luckily |
| 11:18 | <goose> | :D always love meeting other folks from Atlanta |
| 11:18 | <pparadis> | indeed :D |
| 11:18 | <goose> | we have the best city/state ever |
| 11:18 | <pparadis> | that's what i tell people |
| 11:18 | * | pparadis dives back into code |
| 11:18 | <tcsh> | really? |
| 11:19 | <jforman> | goose: heh, always enjoyed atlanta, but i like the seasons up north now. |
| 11:19 | <tcsh> | i never could get into the vibe of hotlanta |
| 11:19 | <JshWright> | *pffft* pparadis also likes Perl... I'm not about to trust his judgement on cities |
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| 11:19 | <tcsh> | it's just such an urban sprawl of a thing. i've only driven through it, and then laded a private plane there once to visit a datacenter and biz meetings |
| 11:19 | <tcsh> | so I must have missed all the charm and character bit |
| 11:19 | <goose> | well, downtown, I can only do so much of |
| 11:20 | <tcsh> | I did go eat at some "famous" soul food restaraunt |
| 11:20 | <goose> | but I *love* the Marietta/Roswell area I live in |
| 11:20 | <jforman> | i've always liked alpharetta. then again this was 6-7 years ago. urban sprawl is probably that far north by now |
| 11:20 | <goose> | going to Walton football games, spending weekends down at the hooch, etc |
| 11:21 | <goose> | any of you Atlanta folks ever been to Cafe Intermezzo? |
| 11:21 | <goose> | there's one in buckhead, and one in perimeter |
| 11:21 | <goose> | worst service ever, best coffee shop ever |
| 11:21 | <jforman> | sounds damn familiar |
| 11:22 | <goose> | great date spot |
| 11:22 | <mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 11:22 | <goose> | go drop $15 on a slice of fancy cake and some tea/coffee |
| 11:23 | <pparadis> | goose: used to go there and also here a lot --> http://www.apresdiem.com/ |
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| 11:26 | <tcsh> | What level of network interfacing do you guys have in each DC |
| 11:27 | <tcsh> | like, a minimum number of peers, minimum number of tier 1 providers, etc |
| 11:27 | <tcsh> | are all DC's the same? |
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| 11:36 | <Peng> | tcsh: They're all awesome, yes. |
| 11:36 | <Peng> | tcsh: https://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Network |
| 11:38 | <tcsh> | the atlanta one just lists all the providers in the building for network |
| 11:39 | <Peng> | Yeah, I know. The others are good, though. :D |
| 11:40 | <tcsh> | Freemont network map wiki URL is 404 |
| 11:40 | <JshWright> | the newark DC is in NAC's Cedar Knolls facility |
| 11:40 | <JshWright> | http://www.nac.net/images/networkmaps/nacnetworkmap.gif |
| 11:42 | <tcsh> | meh. |
| 11:43 | <tcsh> | I don't want to have to move DC's to get stable internets |
| 11:44 | <linbot> | New news from forums: How to make directories writable but not 777 in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5292>; |
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| 11:55 | <@tasaro> | the only reason to move is for better latency to you or your clients... |
| 11:57 | <tcsh> | three outages in the last 24 hours :/ |
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| 11:58 | <@caker> | huh? |
| 11:59 | <tcsh> | 3 notices from wasitp that match huge drops in graphs |
| 12:00 | <@caker> | network problems happen, not matter what facility you're in (one of ours, or someone elses)/ Plan on them |
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| 12:00 | <@caker> | they're all equally equipped - multihomed to many providers, redundant hardware, etc, etc |
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| 12:01 | <tcsh> | I don't expect 100.00% up... I'm whinging because it's 3 in the last 24 hours |
| 12:02 | <Peng> | Unless there are 3 outages every 24 hours, I don't see the big issue/ |
| 12:02 | <@caker> | tcsh: which facility? |
| 12:02 | <tcsh> | atlanta |
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| 12:06 | <RobertMeta> | Peng, um... it is an issue. |
| 12:06 | <RobertMeta> | I don't know if it is TRUE :) |
| 12:06 | <RobertMeta> | but, I would assume 3 outages in one day would be an oddity for sure (but a bad one) |
| 12:07 | <Peng> | Sure, but I don't think it's a great concern, or worth moving data centers over. |
| 12:07 | <RobertMeta> | tcsh, couldn't you simply split across multiple centers? |
| 12:08 | <RobertMeta> | I mean, that is something linode makes insanely easy it seems like, even more so if based off a stackscript (don't even need to clone, just fire up new box, copy work product over) |
| 12:09 | <Peng> | tcsh: The Fremont link works for me. |
| 12:12 | <tcsh> | Peng the HE link? |
| 12:13 | <Peng> | tcsh: Yes. |
| 12:13 | <Daevien> | IMO, if you need 100% uptime from everything under the sun, you generally are either unreasonable with your demands without a real need, have customers & income that would support having multiple linodes for redundancy / failover or you have customers that demand more than their $ allows for |
| 12:14 | <bwenaru> | welcome to dealing with ppl. |
| 12:14 | <Daevien> | ie: some people want 100% just to say they have 100%, a personal website doesn'tneed to have that much ;) |
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| 12:15 | <Daevien> | people suck. i'm sure caker would happily murder people if there was a clause that providers could murder troublesome users :p |
| 12:15 | <bwenaru> | indeed |
| 12:16 | <bliblok> | He should put that in the TOS. |
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| 12:16 | <tcsh> | Daevien, if you're talking about me, I already stated I'm not expecting 100%. My bitch is 3 outages in this short a time frame. If this is uncommon then alright. If this is something I should be use to, then I'm going to have to move somewhere. |
| 12:16 | <Daevien> | all i mean is that either you NEED constant uptime because you have something that will be able to afford to support that degree of reliability.. or you WANT it, which is different |
| 12:17 | <bliblok> | tcsh: It is indeed very uncommon. |
| 12:17 | <Daevien> | i know you didn't say you needed 100%, it was more of a general thing branchign off of what you said |
| 12:17 | <amitz> | 3 outages? when? |
| 12:18 | <Daevien> | it's not common at all, but you never know when some drunk in a SUV is going to run into a datacenter or some dude will digup the wrong spot and cuts cables.. or whatever |
| 12:18 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 12:18 | <bwenaru> | lol |
| 12:18 | <bwenaru> | i've only ever hit light posts! |
| 12:18 | <tcsh> | Actually I expect a DC to survive a backhoe attack. |
| 12:18 | <tcsh> | they should have mutliple fiber paths out of the building |
| 12:19 | <azaghal> | And how about Spanish Inquisition? |
| 12:19 | <Daevien> | survive, yes. without ANY noticable difference? hmm, maybe |
| 12:19 | <tcsh> | even the shitty little one I worked in did |
| 12:19 | <tacticus> | bloody inquisitors |
| 12:19 | <chesty> | not without dropping traffic for a time |
| 12:19 | <tacticus> | always showing up at the worst time |
| 12:19 | <tcsh> | outages where approx 3:45, 14:45, 16:15 at Atlanta GMT |
| 12:19 | <tcsh> | all were short lived |
| 12:20 | <Daevien> | multiple paths that run all the time will still mean cramming 2x traffic into 1x pipe |
| 12:20 | <chesty> | hmmm, i synced my furry midget pron at those times |
| 12:20 | <amitz> | that doesn't sound too bad... |
| 12:20 | <tcsh> | if it's not a common occurance, ok. if it happens like this every two or three weeks, then it will cause me work |
| 12:20 | <Daevien> | tcsh:how long have you been with linode? |
| 12:20 | <tcsh> | three weeks give or take |
| 12:21 | <tcsh> | in production |
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| 12:21 | <Daevien> | ah k. then i guess you could be concerned. it's NOT a normal thing at all |
| 12:21 | <Daevien> | you just brought the jinx with you :p |
| 12:21 | <amitz> | shits happen ;-) |
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| 12:22 | <chesty> | when urmom gave birth, shits happened |
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| 12:23 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, I would argue that if you have uptime needs, you should contract with someone who has an SLA, and if 100% is important, the SLA should be setup to help you recoup any money you loose from downtime |
| 12:24 | <amitz> | yeah, shits happened everywhere. |
| 12:24 | <Daevien> | most times the SLA is pretty screwy anyway and just means new headaches :p |
| 12:24 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, you can get good SLAs if you are big enough. |
| 12:25 | <Daevien> | having been somewhere with an SLA, i found it was the ones that had the least traffic that complained the most. the heaviest users were the ones that knew to do redundant stuff ;) |
| 12:25 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, last place I contacted at had a very high volume (and dollar per second) business during the stock trading hours |
| 12:25 | <amitz> | I'm unfortunately less than 200lbs |
| 12:25 | <RobertMeta> | If they had an outage, they got vast sums per minute, but, they paid vast sums for the links |
| 12:26 | <Daevien> | ie: dude that gets couple dozen hits a day claims he lost thousands in a couple minutes of network slowdown (not full outage). the guy with thousands of hits didn't even blink even when we contacted him directly to apologize sinc eit more affect him ;) |
| 12:26 | <Daevien> | amitz: not a true geek then :p |
| 12:27 | <Daevien> | best of all: it was the couple dozen hit guy that caused the issue that affected others :p |
| 12:27 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, generally business costs (per minute of outage) should be discussed before they become a customer, so if you are in a managed enviro, they know what they have to have setup for you to thrive |
| 12:27 | <amitz> | Daevien: I'd say that's the sign of geeker geek. Less time to eat and bath ;-) |
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| 12:27 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, and it should be in the contract up front (meaning, the more SLA punishment, the more expensive per month of course) |
| 12:28 | <Daevien> | yeah, that was the other thing, in that it wasn't dedicated. small timers thinking they were big time cause thye made a sale once or twice, wouldn't spend any real moneybut wanted 100% uptime and all sorts of stuff that shoudl have been on a dedicated server level. out of shared hosting |
| 12:28 | <Daevien> | amitz: you can't eat & code/admin/whatever? :p |
| 12:29 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, exactly, the company we worked for managed our setup for us, we paid a lot of money, in return, we got a promise of sub 50ms response, coast to coast US up to around 130k requests per second |
| 12:29 | <tacticus> | Daevien: I've seen a lot of the rail\beanpole type geeks around here |
| 12:29 | <Daevien> | *puts on old fogie outfit* hell, i'm chewing gum, talking here and workign on 4 systems. kids these days, :p |
| 12:29 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, but, if we had a minute of downtime, the fines were... extreme. |
| 12:30 | <tacticus> | weird part is the 6ft <60 kg people |
| 12:30 | <RobertMeta> | because, that probably meant we lost 2-3 customers |
| 12:30 | <Daevien> | yeah, but thats not overly common level to be at either heh |
| 12:31 | * | Daevien is sad, i miss seeing the funky infomart building now :p |
| 12:31 | <RobertMeta> | yeah, my point is, we paid a lot of money, and in the around 28 months I dealt with them |
| 12:31 | <RobertMeta> | we had... around I think maybe 30 seconds of downtime |
| 12:31 | <RobertMeta> | which was rounded up to 1 minute, and they were fined for |
| 12:31 | <amitz> | Daevien: true geek uses intravenous drip infusion. There are keyboard, mouse, and other things true geeks need to hold on. |
| 12:32 | <RobertMeta> | true geeks don't like needles. |
| 12:32 | <Daevien> | RobertMeta: yeah and you paid through the nose fo rthat service. i just get a kick when it's someone paying $50 a month and demanding $50000 level ;) |
| 12:32 | <Daevien> | yeah, needles are bad. so are doctors for that matter |
| 12:33 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, we sure did... hehe, the fine was I think 100k, which was a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of 28 months of cost |
| 12:33 | <amitz> | tacticus: true geeks! |
| 12:33 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, the fine isn't designed to make you profit, just blunt the pain |
| 12:33 | <Daevien> | i prefer baseball bats for that |
| 12:33 | <tacticus> | I was so tempted to get into nursing if it wasnt for the blood and the needles |
| 12:33 | <tacticus> | :\ |
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| 12:33 | <RobertMeta> | and, we lost 2 customers for that 30 seconds... they both cancelled by COB |
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| 12:35 | <sadiq> | COB? |
| 12:35 | <TheFirst> | close of business |
| 12:36 | <sadiq> | oh. |
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| 12:41 | <tcsh> | Firefox update makes newly open tabs appear just to the right of the current tab, instead of at the end of the list -- in other words, it switched to the same behvaior as chrome. |
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| 12:43 | <Talman> | yay |
| 12:43 | <jess^> | tacticus: dammit |
| 12:43 | <jess^> | i keep reading your nick as 'testicles' |
| 12:43 | <Talman> | I always found this amusing when they put it in an SLA. |
| 12:43 | <tacticus> | still |
| 12:43 | <tacticus> | :P |
| 12:43 | <jess^> | yes |
| 12:43 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:43 | <jess^> | yes! |
| 12:43 | <Talman> | GoGrid will ensure the presence of a professional security guard in the computer server hosting facilities at all times, charged with enforcing GoGrid's security policies. <- GoGrid owns the DC? |
| 12:44 | <tacticus> | i really should be asleep |
| 12:44 | <Talman> | Doesn't usually HE or The Planet or someone own the DC? |
| 12:44 | <amitz> | I seriously find the customers to be moron :-p |
| 12:44 | <tacticus> | jess^: just read more pratchett |
| 12:44 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:44 | <Daevien> | eww, planet. *stab stab* |
| 12:45 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:45 | <Talman> | Tacticus. Its not hard to pronounce. :) |
| 12:46 | <Talman> | Its like a tactical sparticus. |
| 12:46 | <tacticus> | i should use the real spelling |
| 12:46 | <tacticus> | rather than the british fantasy author version |
| 12:46 | <tacticus> | :) |
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| 12:49 | <pparadis> | Talman: that statement about security guards pretty much applies to all datacenters. |
| 12:50 | <Talman> | That's why I love it. :) |
| 12:50 | <Talman> | WE HAVE TOP NOTCH SECURITY. <- Um, you own the datacenter, do you? :) |
| 12:50 | <Daevien> | pparadis: yeha but i think he was more commenting that the company promising it doens't own the dc |
| 12:51 | <pparadis> | in general hosting companies doon't |
| 12:51 | <pparadis> | don't rather |
| 12:51 | <Nivex> | Talman: yeah, but they'll let anyone in :P |
| 12:51 | <Talman> | Right. Its not their guard, its the DC's guard, and they're just a customer. "enforce gogrid policies" <- Fat chance in hell, they're just a tenant. |
| 12:51 | <pparadis> | Nivex: ? |
| 12:51 | <Nivex> | pparadis: re "Top Notch Security" |
| 12:51 | <pparadis> | they'd better not let anyone into my cage/cabinets :) |
| 12:52 | <Nivex> | ok, that must have sounded funnier in my head |
| 12:52 | <Talman> | I think it depends on the guard firm. |
| 12:52 | <Talman> | I guarnatee you that the one in LA for HE will not attempt to stop you. |
| 12:52 | <Daevien> | pparadis: no one wants your irgeek porn collection anyway |
| 12:52 | <pparadis> | whereas the guards in atlanta have guns |
| 12:52 | <Talman> | They'll call 911, yeah. |
| 12:52 | <Talman> | Georgia is easier. |
| 12:52 | <pparadis> | yep |
| 12:52 | <Talman> | Citizen arrest powers, and its easy to get a gun license. |
| 12:53 | <Talman> | LA requires PC 832 (Powers of Arrest, Shortened), BSIS gun card, BSIS Baton card, BSIS OC card. |
| 12:53 | <Talman> | To get someone who would do something, you're looking at about 18-22 dollars a man hour. |
| 12:53 | <Talman> | Georgia? You can get armed security who will actually do something for about... 15-16 a man hour. |
| 12:54 | <Talman> | Of course, the guards in LA are making about 10 an hour... In Los Angeles. |
| 12:54 | <JshWright> | Depends on which Georgia you're talking about... for the "other" Georgia, I bet it's even cheaper than that |
| 12:55 | <tcsh> | the DC guard I saw in Atlanta was an old fat lady sitting behind some dirty plexiglass asking for ID's |
| 12:55 | <Talman> | Did he have a gun, tcsh? |
| 12:55 | <Talman> | er, she. |
| 12:55 | <JshWright> | especially cheap, since the terms of employment would probably be BYOAK |
| 12:55 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, that is entirely untrue, the pparadis porn collection is known far and wide and one of the most complete and perverse private collections in the universe, wanted by many. |
| 12:55 | <tcsh> | I suspect the metal door and man trap is where the security comes from |
| 12:55 | <tcsh> | not the person... I didn't see, you couldn't see much in their booth |
| 12:55 | <Talman> | Ah. |
| 12:56 | <Talman> | See, DC is funny. Any guard with a gun is a special police officer. |
| 12:56 | <tcsh> | that wasn't linodes DC though |
| 12:56 | <Talman> | Because citizens can't wear guns. |
| 12:56 | <Talman> | Which means they cost a LOT more. |
| 12:56 | <ghostfish> | Talman: erm, Heller overturned that one last year didn't it? |
| 12:56 | <tcsh> | ghostfish, they aren't honoring it |
| 12:56 | <Talman> | DC only licenses SPOs, not guards, though. :) |
| 12:56 | <tcsh> | now they're basically saying any semi-automatic weapon is restricted |
| 12:56 | <Talman> | And no, they'll never honor that. |
| 12:57 | <tcsh> | so, you can have a flintlock pistol |
| 12:57 | <RobertMeta> | ghostfish, doens't matte,r none of the COMPANIES have updated policies yet |
| 12:57 | <Talman> | So, you can get an unarmed guard, who by law can't make arrests. |
| 12:57 | <Talman> | Or, you can get an SPO who has the same powers as a DC cop. |
| 12:57 | <Talman> | Anyone who actually needs security just gets an SPO for 30 a man hour. |
| 12:57 | <RobertMeta> | ... and 95% ARE DC Cops anyway |
| 12:58 | <RobertMeta> | making it even easier. |
| 12:58 | <Talman> | Yeah, that's the off duty guys. |
| 12:58 | <ghostfish> | hehe, carry a level action winchester |
| 12:58 | <Talman> | By law, SPOs can't work for DCPD. |
| 12:58 | <ghostfish> | barrel sawn off |
| 12:58 | <Talman> | Actually, SPOs have to carry a .38 revolver. |
| 12:58 | <Talman> | So the semi-auto thing makes sense. |
| 12:58 | <ghostfish> | ohhhhh |
| 12:58 | <ghostfish> | that's the PERFECT loophole |
| 12:58 | <Talman> | That's usually how you can tell a SPO vs. a federal cop. Their uniforms both say police, but SPOs can only carry a .38 |
| 12:58 | <tcsh> | a revolver is a semi auto |
| 12:58 | <ghostfish> | get a DAO revolver |
| 12:59 | <ghostfish> | erm, SAO rahter |
| 12:59 | <Talman> | Yeah. |
| 12:59 | <Talman> | And how is a revolver semi-auto? |
| 12:59 | <ghostfish> | SAO is not semi auto, you need to cock the hammer each shot by hand |
| 12:59 | <tcsh> | semi automatic means you get a bullet for every time you pull the trigger |
| 12:59 | <RobertMeta> | hehe, snub nose, point at broad side of bus, and hope :) |
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| 12:59 | <ghostfish> | tcsh: no, an SAO revolver is not semi auto |
| 12:59 | <Talman> | I'd want to see DC's definition in statute. |
| 13:00 | <Talman> | I worked in a state where I had to carry a .357 revolver. |
| 13:00 | <Talman> | (Florida) Thankfully, the oragnization I gave money too till it folded worked to have that restriction removed. |
| 13:00 | <tcsh> | for the govnerment? |
| 13:00 | <Talman> | No. If I worked on a government contract, I would of carried a .40 |
| 13:00 | <tcsh> | or the government required that non-government people carry a .357 revolver? |
| 13:00 | <Talman> | Florida law doesn't apply to federal installations. |
| 13:01 | <Talman> | The government requred all licensed security personnel to carry a .357 revolver with .38 rounds. |
| 13:01 | <ghostfish> | Florida gun law is pretty decent, isn't it? |
| 13:01 | <Talman> | Unless you were a PI, a manager of a security company. |
| 13:01 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, the Glock 22? |
| 13:01 | <Talman> | Except where security is concerned. |
| 13:01 | <Talman> | Yeah, Customs issued all guard force personnel an MP5 and a Glock 22. |
| 13:01 | <tcsh> | I have a 22 |
| 13:01 | <Talman> | Please note, you never SAW the MP5. |
| 13:01 | <tcsh> | G22 that is |
| 13:01 | <Talman> | But you signed for one. |
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| 13:01 | <tcsh> | MP5 isn't a bad gun |
| 13:01 | <Talman> | And were required to qualify. |
| 13:02 | <Talman> | No, it isn't. I was a superivisor, so I had to be able to work on all sites. |
| 13:02 | <tcsh> | the only MP5 I've shot is a SDK with the integrated supressor |
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| 13:02 | <tcsh> | a lot of fun really |
| 13:02 | <Talman> | This was the standard MP5 with the stock. |
| 13:02 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, that was my primary target shooting firearm, but, a little pricey now a days... |
| 13:02 | <Talman> | One day, I probably would of been able to tell you what variant. :) |
| 13:02 | <tcsh> | if i had been outdoors without other shooters nearby, i would have liked to fire it without ears on |
| 13:03 | <Talman> | Heh. :) I like my hearing. I'm paranoid about that stuff. |
| 13:03 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, so now I use a few .22's for target |
| 13:03 | <Talman> | My father used 308 casings for ear plugs. |
| 13:03 | <tcsh> | Meta, the G22 was your primary target gun? |
| 13:03 | <Talman> | He is half deaf in one ear, and deaf in the other. |
| 13:03 | <tcsh> | the SDK is supressed |
| 13:03 | <RobertMeta> | tcsh, yeah, it was for a good bit of time |
| 13:03 | <RobertMeta> | but, the rounds are pricey |
| 13:03 | <tcsh> | so outside without other shooters, I'd run it without ears to see how it really sounds |
| 13:03 | <Talman> | OH, yeah... Supressed 9mm is quiet. |
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| 13:04 | <Talman> | It sounds like popcorn. :) |
| 13:04 | <tcsh> | Robert, yeah I have G22 G23 G27 and Steyr M40 all in .40 |
| 13:04 | <Talman> | Wait, no. |
| 13:04 | <Talman> | That was subsonic ammo. |
| 13:04 | <RobertMeta> | I use an Mark III and a S&W 41 as my primary target guns (both .22) |
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| 13:04 | <Talman> | When I was a kid, the local police would come up with their SWAT team to our rifle range. The one we went to. |
| 13:04 | <tcsh> | nice. i bought my g/f a walther g22 for her first gun... |
| 13:05 | <Talman> | And they'd just mow targets down. They were careful of the backstop, though. |
| 13:05 | <Talman> | We had some yahoos from Scott AFB come down with M16s. :( Full auto. |
| 13:05 | <Talman> | They completely obliterated our backstop. |
| 13:06 | <JshWright> | Why would the air force need a full auto assault rifle? |
| 13:06 | <tcsh> | i wish all kids were taught how to safe a weapon, that it's super dangerous, the 10 rules of guns, etc. |
| 13:06 | <tcsh> | i'm going to teach my neices and nephews at some point |
| 13:06 | <Talman> | Why would the air force need an armory? :) Probably because they were Security Police. |
| 13:06 | <pparadis> | JshWright: a great many personnel in the air force fulfill security roles |
| 13:06 | <tcsh> | probably buy a 10/22 rifle with a kids short stock when they're 9 or 10ish |
| 13:06 | <Talman> | My first rifle was a ... It wasn't the 10/22,. that was my second. I got that at 9. |
| 13:07 | <JshWright> | That seems like an odd weapon for security roles... |
| 13:07 | <Talman> | It was a Beretta. |
| 13:07 | <pparadis> | negative |
| 13:07 | <Talman> | And it was insane. Custom shop. |
| 13:07 | <Talman> | The M16 is a great security/law enforcement weapon. |
| 13:07 | <pparadis> | M16 works great for standing watch in the sail of a submarine, same thing really |
| 13:07 | <tcsh> | my parents didn't/don't own or like guns. I bought my glock 23 when I was 18. |
| 13:07 | <Talman> | I had a rifle with a gold plated trigger! :) |
| 13:07 | <tcsh> | M16 / M4 is too large for effective CQB, imho |
| 13:08 | <Talman> | When I moved from FLorida to Memphis, one of the first things I qualified on for a security job was the M4. |
| 13:08 | <tcsh> | even with their shorty barrels that we have to fill AOW for |
| 13:08 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, I am a bit paranoid about my hearing too ... I highly recommend you get some ER-20's (for concerts and such) to go along with your shooting inserts |
| 13:08 | <Talman> | Ooh, I think these are on my wishlist. |
| 13:08 | <Talman> | Aren't these the ones that close on high decibel? |
| 13:08 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, they are GREAT |
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| 13:08 | <JshWright> | I have some ER-20's for saw/hydraulic tool work, they are very nice |
| 13:09 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, I got ER-4's too (the same companies headphones) -- I love them because you can still talk / hear / etc -- just turns it out |
| 13:09 | <RobertMeta> | but still has fantastic dynamic range |
| 13:09 | <RobertMeta> | 20ish DB reduction |
| 13:09 | <Talman> | Yeah, these are the ones that only activate during loud sound waves. |
| 13:09 | <RobertMeta> | no need to wish-list em, they are 10 bucks :) |
| 13:09 | <Talman> | bookmarked. |
| 13:10 | <linbot> | New news from forums: End of the backup beta program? in Backup Service Beta <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5156>; |
| 13:10 | <RobertMeta> | bypass one McD's trip :) |
| 13:10 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:10 | <Talman> | lol. |
| 13:10 | <Talman> | True. |
| 13:10 | <Talman> | I was expecting another 0. |
| 13:10 | <RobertMeta> | with another zero (and a bit more) you can get IMHO among the top 4 IEMs in the industry, and the best value (for a bit longer) |
| 13:10 | <RobertMeta> | I think the new Jayz will probably be better, but they still haven't released pricing |
| 13:11 | <Talman> | heh. |
| 13:12 | * | RobertMeta is a headphone junkie, hehe, saving up for hopefully my "final" pair for awhile... the new JH. |
| 13:12 | <JshWright> | I'm trying to get my dept to issue ER-20's to everyone, they're a phenomal product for the price |
| 13:12 | <RobertMeta> | JH16 Pro's |
| 13:12 | <Talman> | Well holy crap. |
| 13:12 | <RobertMeta> | JshWright, exactly -- cheap and awesome, not often you get that combo. |
| 13:12 | <Talman> | My old employer got a new website. |
| 13:13 | <Talman> | www.excelsiordefense.com <- These guys make 7 an hour. |
| 13:13 | <pparadis> | http://www.ruger.com/products/sr556/index.html |
| 13:13 | <pparadis> | do want ^ |
| 13:13 | <JshWright> | pparadis: hard to fit in your ear, I would think |
| 13:13 | <Talman> | OK, I leaft in 2004, do I really need to be able to recongize everyone in this website by face? |
| 13:14 | <Talman> | pparadis, Oh, wait, that's the ruger. Have you seen the Sig? |
| 13:14 | <Talman> | I got to play with a Sig 556. |
| 13:15 | <RobertMeta> | bah, both are weak sauce compared to http://www.swissminigun.ch/gallery_steel.html |
| 13:16 | <JshWright> | RobertMeta: ammo's too pricey |
| 13:16 | <RobertMeta> | http://www.swissminigun.ch/img/rev_jeans.jpg <- easy to carry too |
| 13:16 | <RobertMeta> | just have to probably shoot the bad guy in the ... eye. |
| 13:16 | <Talman> | Oh lord. |
| 13:16 | <Talman> | You know, we got a threat advisory about that, RobertMeta? |
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| 13:17 | <RobertMeta> | ... seriously, all it will do is piss you off if you get shot with it |
| 13:17 | <RobertMeta> | and it is adorable. |
| 13:17 | <Talman> | Yes. |
| 13:17 | <Talman> | But they wanted it banned as an undetectable threat. |
| 13:18 | <RobertMeta> | hehe |
| 13:19 | <RobertMeta> | worst weapon I have seen snuck into a secure building, and used to really hurt people was an Asp. |
| 13:19 | <Talman> | ... Its 2010. |
| 13:19 | <RobertMeta> | a security guy was almost killed with it. |
| 13:20 | <Talman> | They redesigned the website look. |
| 13:20 | <RobertMeta> | to look worse? |
| 13:20 | <Talman> | Nope. |
| 13:20 | <Talman> | But all the wording... |
| 13:20 | <Talman> | Is mine. |
| 13:20 | <Talman> | ALl they did was replace the pictures. |
| 13:20 | <Talman> | I created a bunch of "divisions" in the company. Entirely fictious. |
| 13:21 | <Talman> | And they still use the "group" names, and the text I wrote for the first edition website |
| 13:21 | <Talman> | Oh, and he wanted it to look exactly like state.gov :) |
| 13:21 | <Talman> | I knew HTML, ffs, not Flash or Javascript. It was 2003. |
| 13:22 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, he should have kept up with http://www.state.gov/ |
| 13:22 | <RobertMeta> | it has improved in the last 7 years :) |
| 13:23 | <Talman> | Yes, yes it has. |
| 13:23 | <Talman> | Originally they had a waving flag banner at the top. |
| 13:23 | <Talman> | Every one of this websites has a US flag at the top, cause i wasn't sure how to do it. :) |
| 13:23 | <Talman> | Except this new one, I see. |
| 13:24 | <Talman> | And they're all hosted on IIS because I hate Windows server. :) |
| 13:24 | <RobertMeta> | hehe, a friend looking over my shoulder is like "ummm, what is #linode, a weapons company of somekind?" |
| 13:24 | <RobertMeta> | haha |
| 13:25 | <Talman> | Yes, yes it is. |
| 13:25 | <Talman> | They make the Linode Integrated Weapons Platform. |
| 13:25 | <Talman> | It shoots internets. |
| 13:26 | <RobertMeta> | hehe |
| 13:27 | <RobertMeta> | ugh, he just linked me to an AWFUL weapon to add to the list, the "Wasp".. it is a knife that injects 24g of 800psi gas (on land, fills up an internal cavity the size of a basketball, and freezes it all). Instant kill knife, yikes. |
| 13:27 | <Talman> | Ew. |
| 13:27 | <Talman> | That sounds like a shark stick. |
| 13:28 | <Peng> | shark stick? |
| 13:28 | <RobertMeta> | yep, that is where the design comes from |
| 13:28 | <Talman> | Shark stick, hit the shark, it fires CO2 into the shark to kill it. |
| 13:28 | <RobertMeta> | Peng, a knife weapon for taking down huge creatures.... turns out it is also very useful for killing people, effectively and silently. |
| 13:28 | <Peng> | Ah, I see. |
| 13:28 | <Peng> | Cool. |
| 13:28 | <Nivex> | Talman: That should be the Linode Integrated Munitions Platform (LIMP) |
| 13:28 | <RobertMeta> | now with multi-fire capabilities! |
| 13:28 | <RobertMeta> | Nivex++ |
| 13:29 | <jess^> | arrgh |
| 13:29 | <Talman> | This has to be against the laws of armed conflict. |
| 13:29 | <Nivex> | "Fire the LIMP guns!" |
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| 13:29 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, why, it doesn't leave people injured, it kills them. |
| 13:29 | <Talman> | Would it? |
| 13:29 | <RobertMeta> | instantly. |
| 13:29 | <RobertMeta> | even in a limb. |
| 13:29 | <Talman> | What if you stabbed them in a leg? |
| 13:29 | <Talman> | Hmm. Ok, I guess that works. |
| 13:29 | <RobertMeta> | the gas will expand to fill the cavity space. |
| 13:30 | <Talman> | Yeah, but there's no void between the leg and the adbominal cavity that i know of. |
| 13:30 | <Talman> | Or would it make a void? :) |
| 13:30 | <Nivex> | Linode Integrated Munitions Platform Destructive Index Calculation Key (LIMP DICK) |
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| 13:30 | <RobertMeta> | well, I mean, in the leg, basically, it would take the leg off |
| 13:30 | <Nivex> | (can you tell it's Friday?) |
| 13:30 | <Talman> | >> A multi-shot gas injection weapon that is devastating to any living creature and will drop some of the largest mammals in a single stab. |
| 13:30 | <RobertMeta> | now, you might live though it, with instant medical care |
| 13:31 | <RobertMeta> | yeah, the elephant gun... of knives. |
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| 13:31 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:31 | <Talman> | LOL. They're trying to sell this to security personnel! :) * Security Guards (Special Protective Services, Air Marshals, etc.) |
| 13:31 | <JshWright> | that depends very much on the point of impact and depth of penetration |
| 13:31 | <Talman> | And honestly, 20 to one there's no law against this thing for civilian carry. |
| 13:31 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, next market, cub scouts. |
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| 13:32 | <Talman> | They call it a hunting knife, so why not! |
| 13:32 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, I am going to buy one for the girlfriend, she is 5 foot |
| 13:32 | <RobertMeta> | someone tries to mug her, she will explode them. |
| 13:32 | <Talman> | Buy her a taser too. |
| 13:32 | <Talman> | I am a big fucking spokesperson for Taser. |
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| 13:32 | <RobertMeta> | who needs a taser with 800psi of compressed gas. |
| 13:32 | <Talman> | That company I linked, after a 3 minute video, the owner went out and bought tasers for everyone. |
| 13:32 | * | Talman shoots RobertMeta with a taser from 15 feet. |
| 13:32 | <Talman> | Range. |
| 13:32 | * | RobertMeta sprays Talman with Vexar at 12 feet |
| 13:33 | <RobertMeta> | pulls out taser leads and beats Talman to death |
| 13:33 | * | Talman unloads the entire magazine at RobertMeta. :) |
| 13:33 | <RobertMeta> | Wasp... Vexar... Taser... triple play! |
| 13:33 | <Talman> | Ow. |
| 13:34 | <Talman> | One of those is not like the others, yo. |
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| 13:34 | <RobertMeta> | Try Taser, if they get closer, Vexar, if they get inside stabbing range, blow them up. |
| 13:34 | <jess^> | grr |
| 13:34 | <Talman> | I wonder how hard it is to push that button. |
| 13:34 | <Talman> | Imagine the thing going off in the sheath. |
| 13:34 | <RobertMeta> | I would assume the tip of the sheath is open |
| 13:34 | <RobertMeta> | unless the company are idiots. |
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| 13:35 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, you work in security, you can request a "kill zone map" from Wasp if you want |
| 13:35 | <Talman> | doesn't look it. |
| 13:35 | <jess^> | grr |
| 13:35 | <jess^> | fucking bash code that was working yesterday doesn't now :( |
| 13:35 | <Talman> | I work for a website company. :) But I can still get one. That would be interesting on the wall. |
| 13:36 | <Talman> | Where's the link? |
| 13:36 | <Talman> | :) |
| 13:36 | <RobertMeta> | I think you have to call and talk to a sales rep to get it |
| 13:37 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, the sheeths look to have holes at the end |
| 13:37 | <RobertMeta> | maybe they don't vent, but it looks like they do |
| 13:37 | <RobertMeta> | but, I notice no "Trigger safety" -- which I would sorta expect |
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| 13:56 | <RobertMeta> | http://www.setcan.com/shocknife.html <-- 9V powered "office weapon" IMHO |
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| 14:02 | <randallman> | Whee, just took my RHCE exam |
| 14:02 | <RobertMeta> | randallman, possible congrats, or sadness. |
| 14:02 | <RobertMeta> | depending if you pass or fail. |
| 14:02 | <randallman> | Probably Congrats :) |
| 14:03 | <randallman> | I finished in 2hrs, spend an hour 2x checking |
| 14:03 | <randallman> | and left 30 minutes early |
| 14:03 | <JshWright> | I never double check exams... bad things happen when I do |
| 14:04 | <randallman> | actually nothing changed on the 2nd go |
| 14:04 | <RobertMeta> | JshWright, hehe, I always double-check just for stupity. |
| 14:04 | <randallman> | so yeah, normally Im with you :) |
| 14:04 | <randallman> | you have to double check your double check |
| 14:04 | <randallman> | if something changed :) |
| 14:04 | <RobertMeta> | I am a multi-pass test taker, so, I am double checking for missed questions :) |
| 14:04 | <randallman> | heh |
| 14:04 | <randallman> | like richard dawson |
| 14:04 | <randallman> | 'Pass' |
| 14:05 | <randallman> | tell ya what, the RHCA ciriculum looks intersting |
| 14:05 | <randallman> | but its about 12G worth of prep classes and tests |
| 14:05 | <randallman> | and doubtfully something my company would pay for :) |
| 14:06 | <randallman> | 'lets pay for this guy to get a certification with which he could leave and get a 50% pay increase' |
| 14:06 | <RobertMeta> | randallman, since you just took a test, check out http://funnyexam.com/ |
| 14:06 | <RobertMeta> | I bet some of those answers are better than yours. |
| 14:06 | <randallman> | heh Jimmy McPerson! |
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| 14:07 | <Bohemian> | i need 2gb of ram: whats the cheapest option at linode? |
| 14:07 | <tanto> | randallman, what kind of prep work did you do for it? |
| 14:07 | <randallman> | I took the prep class |
| 14:07 | <randallman> | read: 1 week off work |
| 14:07 | <tanto> | how much did all that cost |
| 14:07 | <randallman> | about 2500 bucks |
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| 14:07 | <randallman> | and I didnt pay for it |
| 14:08 | <@caker> | Bohemian: http://www.linode.com/ |
| 14:08 | <tanto> | i'd have to pay for mine.. |
| 14:08 | <randallman> | The test itself is like 800 |
| 14:08 | <tanto> | and i'm not going to pay 2500 =) |
| 14:08 | <JshWright> | Bohemian: the 2880 is $160/mo |
| 14:08 | <Bohemian> | caker: i see that, but if i get the plan for 79 and ad hoc enough ram, what is the cost? |
| 14:08 | <tanto> | do you think the prep class was worth it? |
| 14:08 | <Bohemian> | i only need 2gb |
| 14:08 | <Bohemian> | with my 360, i can add ram... |
| 14:08 | <RobertMeta> | Bohemian, java app? |
| 14:08 | <randallman> | oh, so if I were to have walked in and taken it cold.... assuming I previously gave a shit about SElinux, I could have taken it - but I wouldnt have finished in 2 hrs |
| 14:08 | <Bohemian> | yeah |
| 14:08 | <Bohemian> | RobertMeta: got a good solution? |
| 14:08 | <Bohemian> | tomcat |
| 14:08 | <RobertMeta> | Bohemian, hehe, demanding set amounts of memory is a dead give away :) |
| 14:08 | <tanto> | ahh selinux |
| 14:09 | <tanto> | that's something we don't use at all at my job =( |
| 14:09 | <randallman> | actually redhat's angle on selinux is kinda nice |
| 14:09 | <randallman> | they are only assigning context's to daemons |
| 14:09 | <RobertMeta> | Bohemian, you just need to get enough memory, no way around it. |
| 14:09 | <randallman> | everything elseis in a single context |
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| 14:09 | <RobertMeta> | Bohemian, you can try to lighten up your app some, but obviously, that is a lot of dollars |
| 14:09 | <JshWright> | Bohemian: it might be a little cheaper get a 1440 and add memory, but I doubt it |
| 14:09 | <tanto> | cool |
| 14:09 | <randallman> | so basically, all of the daemons have limits |
| 14:09 | <randallman> | the users do not |
| 14:09 | <Peng> | !extras |
| 14:09 | <linbot> | Available Add-ons: Disk: $ 2 per 1GB/month. RAM: $ 5 per 90MB/month. Transfer: $ 10 per 100GB/month. IP: $ 1 per IP/month. To add extras: https://www.linode.com/members/linode/extras.cfm |
| 14:09 | <tanto> | did you get any kind of prep book(s)? |
| 14:09 | <Bohemian> | JshWright: yeah, i was just wondering how much cheaper |
| 14:09 | <Bohemian> | thank you Peng |
| 14:09 | <randallman> | so if you get a daemon pwn't, it cant open files it shouldnt and cant listen on sockets it shouldnt |
| 14:10 | <Bohemian> | anybody know how much a dedicated server costs? |
| 14:10 | <Peng> | Bohemian: I dunno if the host would have that much spare RAM, though. :-\ |
| 14:10 | <randallman> | tanto, it was more about my personal experience |
| 14:10 | <Bohemian> | if i provided the server? |
| 14:10 | <Peng> | Bohemian: It varies. |
| 14:10 | <Peng> | Bohemian: Colocation? |
| 14:10 | <JshWright> | so... quite a bit cheaper if the host has enough RAM |
| 14:10 | <tanto> | randallman: yeah, understood |
| 14:10 | <Bohemian> | Peng: yes, colo |
| 14:10 | <randallman> | the RHCE Prep Guide on Redhat.com tells everything you need to know |
| 14:10 | <tanto> | awesome thanks for the tip |
| 14:10 | <JshWright> | Bohemian: Linode is a VPS company, noa colo company |
| 14:10 | <Bohemian> | i'm running a 20000 page site |
| 14:10 | <JshWright> | woah... s/noa/not a/ |
| 14:10 | <Bohemian> | didn't know if linod also had colo services |
| 14:10 | <randallman> | Bohemian, that's a lot of pages :) |
| 14:10 | <tanto> | the place i work at specializes in java apps |
| 14:10 | <JshWright> | what does the number of pages have to do with it? |
| 14:11 | <Bohemian> | randallman: tell me about it - i'm moving it to drupal from quickbase |
| 14:11 | <randallman> | well he'll bump up soon on the ext3 limit :) |
| 14:11 | <tanto> | i didn't like drupal |
| 14:11 | <RobertMeta> | Bohemian, that feels sorta like a sideways move :( |
| 14:11 | <Bohemian> | my point is it is large, gets 5k UVs a day |
| 14:11 | <randallman> | of 32k files per dir :) |
| 14:11 | <tanto> | i'm moving all my stuff to django |
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| 14:11 | <randallman> | if its in one big die :) |
| 14:11 | <JshWright> | surely the number of pages just determines the disk space used... |
| 14:11 | <randallman> | err dir |
| 14:11 | <Bohemian> | RobertMeta: why? |
| 14:11 | <randallman> | 5000uv's isnt a huge number |
| 14:11 | <RobertMeta> | Bohemian, hehe, I was just kidding, I don't like either. |
| 14:11 | <JshWright> | 5k a _day_? |
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| 14:11 | <JshWright> | that's nothing... |
| 14:12 | <RobertMeta> | 5k unique visitors * page views |
| 14:12 | <Bohemian> | i know, that's why they hired me to increase it |
| 14:12 | <tanto> | bohemian: i'm curious, is this a custom java app or a commercial/open source app? |
| 14:12 | <Bohemian> | but since they want advanced search, i need to get them off godaddy |
| 14:12 | <RobertMeta> | under heavy use (like, a learning site) 5k a day could be 100k+ pages |
| 14:12 | <tanto> | 2 GB is pretty excessive for most apps |
| 14:12 | <Bohemian> | tanto: tomcat + apache solr |
| 14:12 | <randallman> | tanto, tell that to our java non-developers... :P |
| 14:12 | <RobertMeta> | tanto, 2GB isn't excessive for lots of java apps :( |
| 14:12 | <tanto> | tomcat itself is fairly light weight |
| 14:12 | <randallman> | they want a 2GB heap for *everything* |
| 14:12 | <randallman> | even a basic axis2 spring-based webservice that just says Hello, World |
| 14:13 | <tanto> | randall: yeah, it definitely helps, and it does depend on the traffic to it |
| 14:13 | <randallman> | nevermind the fact that the bigger the heap, the longer the full gc :) |
| 14:13 | <tanto> | there's some tomcat optimizations or whatever |
| 14:13 | <RobertMeta> | Bohemian, in my experience, for major memory sinks, you have to colo, everyone else will CRUSH you for memory... throwing 32GB in a box these days is cheap an easy |
| 14:13 | <RobertMeta> | but not priced that way on any provider. |
| 14:13 | * | caker garbage collects urmom |
| 14:13 | <Bohemian> | could i put the db side of this site on amazon's ec2 then the rest on a linode? |
| 14:13 | <randallman> | caker++ |
| 14:14 | <Bohemian> | RobertMeta: well, i have contacted our university's dedicated server office |
| 14:14 | <@caker> | Bohemian: that would suck because of latency. Besides, our machines are faster than EC2 |
| 14:14 | <Guspaz> | RobertMeta: Clearly your definition of "cheap" differs from mine, since servers with 16 RAM slots cost a bundle, and 4GB DIMMs cost a bundle (if you want to do it with 8 slots) |
| 14:14 | <Bohemian> | they can offer it to us, i just wanted to give a presentation with various offers |
| 14:14 | <randallman> | ever notice how the garbage collectors get in the way and stop up traffic sometimes? :P |
| 14:14 | <randallman> | What a perfect metaphor |
| 14:14 | <megatron27> | I like Solr a lot but maybe MySQL or Postgresql's FTS is better in this environment |
| 14:14 | <tanto> | speaking of java apps, i need to upgrade my jira and confluence |
| 14:14 | <randallman> | caker, just wondering - you doing CFMx in jboss or some other app server? |
| 14:14 | <tanto> | i've been putting it off and there's a ton of nice new features in confluence 3.1 and jira 4 |
| 14:14 | <Guspaz> | My desktop can take 24GB of RAM, but it'd cost a fortune to get even consumer-level memory in there. 12GB cost $180 (at the time), today 24GB would cost in the four digits. |
| 14:14 | <randallman> | we're doing it in weblogic9.2 still right now... |
| 14:14 | <randallman> | CFMX8 |
| 14:15 | <Bohemian> | megatron27: fts? what i need to do is have various search options, like "woman" and see subcategories that fall under "woman" |
| 14:15 | <Bohemian> | can fts do that? |
| 14:15 | <Bohemian> | caker: well, help us out... :P we're federally funded/university |
| 14:15 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz, 24GB across how many slots? |
| 14:15 | <Bohemian> | i have a linode for my personal server, so i thought i'd try here |
| 14:15 | <Guspaz> | RobertMeta: 6. |
| 14:15 | <randallman> | he's got that super special LGA1366 |
| 14:15 | <Bohemian> | tanto: i was told tomcat will take 1.2g, so 2gb is safe |
| 14:15 | <randallman> | with the X58 on top |
| 14:15 | <megatron27> | are the categories defined by the admin? |
| 14:15 | <Guspaz> | I bought my i7 before LGA1156 came out. |
| 14:15 | <randallman> | Guspaz, by the way |
| 14:16 | <randallman> | Guspaz, I have the i860 right.... So I have either one 16 lane E, or 2 8's and a 4.... |
| 14:16 | <randallman> | Guspaz, WELL... after the intel matrix analysis and Raid 1, I wanted to get a 3ware |
| 14:16 | <randallman> | there's no 4 port 1x 3ware |
| 14:16 | <megatron27> | federally funded! |
| 14:16 | <randallman> | so either I drop to 8/8/4, or screw a aftermarket h/w raid card :) |
| 14:16 | <Guspaz> | Since I'm moving away from liking SLI (in favour of dual-GPU single cards instead), I'd tend to say that the 1366 is a waste of money. |
| 14:16 | <randallman> | Guspaz, see above |
| 14:17 | <randallman> | if you want even a 4x card, you drop your total to 8/8/4 on the 1156 boxes |
| 14:17 | <Guspaz> | randallman: The chipset has its own lanes. |
| 14:17 | <randallman> | I know,Im speaking if you want a 4x PCIe card |
| 14:17 | <randallman> | like an aftermarket NIC or storage adapter |
| 14:17 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz... 16GB can be purchased for I think like 500 bucks (DDR2) and 750 (DDR3) and I consider that "cheap as dirt" |
| 14:18 | <ghostfish> | 1156 is basically crap unless you're a mainstream consumer |
| 14:18 | <randallman> | RobertMeta, he needs 10600 minimum, I believe... |
| 14:18 | <ghostfish> | anyone needing any power HAS to go 1366 |
| 14:18 | <RobertMeta> | randallman, I know |
| 14:18 | <RobertMeta> | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231312 (4x4GB @ 10666) |
| 14:18 | <randallman> | ghostfish, well IM happy with my WINDOWS GAME BOX on a 1156... but the 3ware thing annoye me |
| 14:18 | <ghostfish> | randallman: 3ware? |
| 14:18 | <randallman> | Robert, he needs the kits that come in 3's :P |
| 14:18 | <Guspaz> | randallman: The P55 chipset has 8x that is supposed to be used for addin cards, I believe. |
| 14:19 | <randallman> | Guspaz, perhaps my asus is crap then ... |
| 14:19 | <Bohemian> | RobertMeta: if i went with ec2, how do i install what i need? do they put your distro on there and you just pay for bandwith as you go? |
| 14:19 | <Guspaz> | RobertMeta: I don't, considering that I spent $180 on 12GB of DDR3 :P |
| 14:19 | <megatron27> | well.....I think they recommend the large heap size so that you can set -Xms and -Xmx to the same value, that way you don't run the GC that often but of course when it runs it will be temporary hog (my knowledge might be outdated) |
| 14:19 | <randallman> | but the docs say if I use the ONE 4x slot, I drop the others to 8 |
| 14:19 | <Peng> | RobertMeta: That's some expensive dirt. :D |
| 14:19 | <ghostfish> | erm, 1156 uses pairs, not triples of RAM, the 1366 in the one using triples (and the resulting much better memory bandwidth) |
| 14:20 | <randallman> | ghostfish, reality is unless you're using huge segments of memory for high bandwidth workloads, 2channel is 'fast enough' |
| 14:20 | <randallman> | e.g. for a windows box running games and office |
| 14:20 | <RobertMeta> | randallman, java apps might fall in that group |
| 14:20 | <Guspaz> | Yeah, my point is that 4GB sticks are a ripoff, they cost a hell of a lot more than double that of 2GB sticks. |
| 14:20 | <randallman> | I dunno |
| 14:20 | <randallman> | perhaps a full GC sweep might be a bit faster. |
| 14:20 | <Guspaz> | Or alternatively you get a mobo with 16 slots, those aren't cheap either. |
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| 14:20 | <ghostfish> | the other benefit of the 3 channel is you get 6 slots, not 4 |
| 14:20 | <randallman> | Guspaz, in our X5550 based Xeon servers, we get 12*4 |
| 14:21 | <Guspaz> | Yeah, hence why I got 6x2GB |
| 14:21 | <randallman> | :) |
| 14:21 | <randallman> | 10600R |
| 14:21 | <ghostfish> | which means you can put in more RAM without having to get the far more expensive 4gb sticks |
| 14:21 | <randallman> | ecc/registered |
| 14:21 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz, compare it to letting a hosting provider bill you MONTHLY for that memory |
| 14:21 | <Guspaz> | Sure. Although some providers let you pay for upgrades. |
| 14:21 | <Guspaz> | 12GB is enough for me and my desktop, and I can always upgrade to 24GB down the road if 4GB DIMMs ever come down in price to "sane". |
| 14:21 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz, you know what is funny, some SAY they do, then BALK when you say "I want to max out memory on that board" |
| 14:22 | <randallman> | ghostfish, you do know if you use BOTH slots in a pair, the X58 is *supposed* to clock down from 1333 to 1066 |
| 14:22 | <randallman> | on the memory bandwidth |
| 14:22 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz, I got 16GB in my laptop... hehe, I love not having to worry about memory when doing dev |
| 14:22 | <randallman> | I'm 8gb on my workstation @ work and 8gb on this windows box @ home :) |
| 14:22 | <Guspaz> | RobertMeta: Boards tend to be less stable with their RAM fully populated. It's an unfortunate fact that has followed us for many years. |
| 14:23 | <Guspaz> | Especially whenever a new chipset comes out, the early boards and early BIOSes usually have problems fully populating the slots. |
| 14:23 | <ghostfish> | randallman: well I run 1600 and the official spec be damned ;) though I only use 3 slots |
| 14:23 | <randallman> | :) |
| 14:23 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz, I have never had an issue with that, got any linkage to that? Obviously when you get X errors per Y read/write RAM operations, having the ability to do a lot more faster causes more errors |
| 14:23 | <randallman> | HP also provides bios override for the ''spec'' |
| 14:23 | <RobertMeta> | but not as a % -- just as a pure number. |
| 14:24 | <ghostfish> | my motherboard officially supports 1600 |
| 14:24 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz, use intel reference boards on servers :) |
| 14:24 | <ghostfish> | but of course intel doesn't, right? |
| 14:24 | <randallman> | ghostfish, correct |
| 14:24 | <RobertMeta> | Intel / Netlist == win. |
| 14:24 | <Guspaz> | RobertMeta: Just look at the early reviews for mobos from whenever a new chipset came out. There are usually a slew of "unreliable if you fully populate" reports for a while after every new chipset comes out. |
| 14:24 | <ghostfish> | but it's fairly well known the processor can handle FAR more than even 1600 |
| 14:24 | <ghostfish> | the 1366 at least, the 1156 probably not as much |
| 14:24 | <Guspaz> | Usually they're fixed later with BIOS updates. |
| 14:25 | <randallman> | Guspaz, tell me about it |
| 14:25 | <randallman> | our entire HP Blade farm running the i7 xeons has f'd up memory issues |
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| 14:25 | <randallman> | just on 2/10/2010 (8 months after go live for the product), they released a bios/firmware fix |
| 14:25 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz, I try to stick to intel boards and netlist memory, IMHO, that is what will keep you stable, if you love DFI or Biostar -- you get what you get. |
| 14:25 | <randallman> | that fixed 80% of the 'bad dimm' errors ans system crashes we were getting |
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| 14:26 | <RobertMeta> | Netlist uses Samsung modules |
| 14:26 | <RobertMeta> | and do a lot of testing with intels paired. |
| 14:27 | <randallman> | *Resolved an issue which could cause correctable memory error threshold events or uncorrectable memory errors. This issue does not indicate a data issue with the DIMM and the System ROM upgrade will completely resolve this issue. |
| 14:27 | <Guspaz> | I don't. I tend to stick to Asus, Gigabyte isn't so bad either. |
| 14:27 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz, for your SERVERS? |
| 14:27 | <RobertMeta> | Asus / GB are fine for home boxes |
| 14:27 | <Guspaz> | No. I never specified servers. |
| 14:28 | <Guspaz> | My home server is running a SuperMicro board. |
| 14:28 | <Guspaz> | I like it, except for its 2GB memory limit. |
| 14:28 | <randallman> | how's that ZFS wrking for ya anyway? |
| 14:28 | <randallman> | I guess btrfs is in the kernel now? |
| 14:28 | <Talman> | Sigh. I'm watching some landscaping show. |
| 14:28 | <Guspaz> | Pretty well. Not much to say. I haven't gotten around to trying to turn on time-limited-error-recovery on the drives yet. |
| 14:28 | <Talman> | And they put up a US flag (the wife) and an English flag (the husband). |
| 14:28 | <Talman> | But they're equally high on the house. |
| 14:29 | <randallman> | When in rome.... |
| 14:29 | <ghostfish> | Talman: that's not right |
| 14:29 | <RobertMeta> | randallman, you know how you mentioned that channel bandwidth sorta being wasted? Netlist took advantage of that to display two virtual ranks to the Controller Hub on DDR3 |
| 14:29 | <Talman> | Doesn't ASUS make server MBs? |
| 14:29 | <ghostfish> | the US flag needs to be higher |
| 14:29 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, not goo dones. |
| 14:29 | <randallman> | RobertMeta, no kidding... |
| 14:29 | <Talman> | Correct! |
| 14:29 | <Talman> | I've got a "corporate" board in my PC. |
| 14:29 | <Talman> | wtf, I hear geese. |
| 14:29 | <RobertMeta> | randallman, yep, called "hypercloud" -- can double capacity on existing boxes |
| 14:30 | <Talman> | Why I'm not hearing the spin-up of a chain gun, I'm not sure. |
| 14:30 | <randallman> | but most systems have a maximum # of ranks, no?> |
| 14:30 | <randallman> | so in theory, you would run out of ranks? |
| 14:30 | <RobertMeta> | randallman, interestly, the number tends to be very high (like, 16 or 24) |
| 14:30 | <Guspaz> | Talman: That's nothing. Here in Quebec, you'll sometimes see the Quebec flag center/higher/etc, when the Canadian flag should be centered. |
| 14:30 | <RobertMeta> | randallman, so they can use same memoryhub on different slotted boards |
| 14:30 | <randallman> | Gotcha |
| 14:31 | <randallman> | our BL460c's are 12 dimm'd (6 per CPU) and the larger form factor are 18 dimm'd (9 per CPU) |
| 14:31 | <randallman> | so I suppose if they used the same hub, there'd be more ranks avaialble on the smaller form factor boxes |
| 14:31 | <RobertMeta> | so, you got a 4x board, with a 16x memory hub, you can make it equiv to an 8x.. and if the bandwidth keeps outpacing the access needs, nothing stops it from becoming 3x or more. |
| 14:31 | <RobertMeta> | yeah, on the 18, you might be close to maxed out |
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| 14:31 | <RobertMeta> | obviously, if you DO need all the bandwidth, you suffer |
| 14:32 | <RobertMeta> | but, if you need space, not speed, it helps |
| 14:32 | <randallman> | heh |
| 14:32 | <randallman> | I just still dont like the math with 3 way... |
| 14:33 | <randallman> | dual CPU, 12GB is really the lowest you can go |
| 14:33 | <randallman> | without using unregistered 1gb dimms |
| 14:33 | <RobertMeta> | They haven't released 3 way .. but it is technically possible .. on DDR5 or whatnot |
| 14:33 | <randallman> | so the possibilities are 12, 24, 48, and 96 |
| 14:33 | <randallman> | well 3 way meaning triple channel |
| 14:34 | <randallman> | and you can always build a box with sub-optimal memory config if you need a number in the middle, but why? :P |
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| 14:40 | <Guspaz> | I'd like to build a box with urmom in the middle. |
| 14:40 | <randallman> | heh |
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| 14:40 | <randallman> | a bit of a double entendre? |
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| 14:46 | <jforman_> | any admins around? having some issues getting my node to reboot/boot on atlanta104 |
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| 14:47 | <@caker> | jforman_: mind submitting a ticket? |
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| 14:48 | <jforman_> | caker, surely |
| 14:49 | <jforman_> | caker, submitted for you folks |
| 14:51 | <ang> | did something happen to atalanta22? seems i'm on atlanta47 now... |
| 14:51 | <Peng> | atlanta22 wanted weekends off and use of the executive bathroom, so it was let go. |
| 14:51 | <Peng> | ang: Check your email. |
| 14:53 | <ang> | if i got anything, postini swallowed t up long ago |
| 14:54 | <randallman> | I need that redacted script |
| 14:54 | <randallman> | so every time I see the word postini :) |
| 14:54 | <randallman> | it just says [redacted] :P |
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| 14:56 | <Peng> | ang: Then check your support ticket history in the manager. |
| 14:56 | <ang> | nada |
| 14:57 | <Peng> | Huh. |
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| 14:57 | <jess^> | POSTINI POSTINI POSTINI! |
| 14:57 | <randallman> | Arrgh :) |
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| 14:58 | <Peng> | Postini sounds like some sort of food. |
| 14:58 | <randallman> | Nothing I'd eat :) |
| 14:58 | <RobertMeta> | that you get via mail. |
| 14:58 | <jim> | what's the abuse contact address? |
| 14:58 | <randallman> | But yeah it sorta does :) |
| 14:58 | <jforman_> | caker, thanks for the fast response. any idea what happened? |
| 14:58 | <randallman> | 'Go grab a hot cup of postini!' |
| 14:59 | <jim> | thx |
| 14:59 | <randallman> | I realize Im in a dying breed of people and companies that want to manage thier own e-mail destiny :) |
| 14:59 | <ang> | it's not the end of the world or anyting, just was surprised when i tried to hit the console |
| 14:59 | <jim> | not every shop has the abuse@ address set up |
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| 15:00 | <randallman> | well I guess he was angry :) |
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| 15:01 | <randallman> | Peng, come to think about it - postini sounds like 'Spam and Noodles' :P |
| 15:01 | <Smark> | Any recommendations for hand CDs to keep on hand? Have Ubuntu 9.10, Ultimate Boot CD, maybe BackTrack... |
| 15:01 | <randallman> | Hmm |
| 15:01 | <randallman> | Depends on the situation? |
| 15:02 | <randallman> | If Im near solaris boxes, a solaris 10 bootable is nice to have |
| 15:02 | <Peng> | Memtest86? Finnix? I dunno. |
| 15:02 | <Smark> | general tech support. |
| 15:02 | <Peng> | Ubuntu can do Memtest86, and other tools are an apt-get away. |
| 15:02 | <Smark> | Memtest86[+] is included with UBCD |
| 15:02 | * | Peng shrugs |
| 15:02 | <Peng> | Oh. |
| 15:02 | <RobertMeta> | Smark, something for viruses would be all you need to really add |
| 15:03 | <Smark> | was thinking general support tech support applications. BackTrack generally covers retreiving lost passwords. |
| 15:03 | <Smark> | hmm, good point. |
| 15:03 | <Guspaz> | Ubuntu includes memtest as a default option in grub ^_^ |
| 15:04 | <@caker> | jforman_: a somewhat annoying, temporary and incredibly rare xen quirk .. it fixes itself after a few minutes |
| 15:05 | <jforman> | caker: ah okay. hopefully a bug has been filed and pitchforks are being raised |
| 15:05 | <RobertMeta> | Smark, there another great one, I forgot the name of, asking a buddy to remind me |
| 15:06 | <Smark> | alright thanks RobertMeta. Hiren's BootCD seems to be a must-have also. |
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| 15:08 | <Daevien> | smark: backtrack & trinity tools http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?wpid=1&front_id=12 |
| 15:09 | <jcy`> | AOL CD for 1800 free hours |
| 15:09 | <randallman> | HEH |
| 15:09 | <Daevien> | trinity isn't all that known, but some good utils there. custom scripts added that make stuff easy + virus scanners & other utils for mirroring systems, etc |
| 15:09 | <RobertMeta> | jcy`, I remember as the # of hours slowly climbed over a # of years |
| 15:09 | <randallman> | Do you have a copy of urmom on CD, or perhaps DVD? :P |
| 15:09 | <Daevien> | hiren's has a lot of useful stuff. but it's not um, at all, legal :p |
| 15:09 | <jcy`> | yeah i think eventually they offered more hours than could possibly be used in 30 days for the trial period |
| 15:10 | <RobertMeta> | may! |
| 15:10 | <RobertMeta> | hehe |
| 15:10 | <randallman> | 744 hours in a 31 day month :) |
| 15:12 | * | mdcollins loves google voice |
| 15:12 | <mdcollins> | it allows me to screw with a friend and pretend to be a girl who is semi-interested in him. On day #2 so far. |
| 15:13 | <randallman> | Thats messed up |
| 15:13 | <RobertMeta> | mdcollins, I suspect you might be a bastard. |
| 15:13 | <RobertMeta> | that is one mean trick |
| 15:13 | <mdcollins> | Nah, he treats women as objects.. like literally he has a number that he adds to.. |
| 15:13 | <jcy`> | <obligatory begging for gvoice invite> |
| 15:14 | <jcy`> | but if women like to be treated as objects, who are we to cast aspersions |
| 15:14 | <mdcollins> | jcy`, let me see if i have an invites. |
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| 15:14 | <RobertMeta> | jcy`, I got a few |
| 15:14 | <JshWright> | as do I |
| 15:15 | * | mdcollins has 3 |
| 15:15 | <Talman> | How do you pretend to be a girl? |
| 15:15 | <Talman> | I have 0 invites. :( |
| 15:15 | <randallman> | how do you see if you have invites? |
| 15:15 | <Talman> | I mean, voice-wise. |
| 15:15 | <randallman> | I guess that means I dont have any :) |
| 15:15 | <Talman> | login. SOme accounts have them, some don't. |
| 15:15 | <mdcollins> | oh, not voice wise, this is over text |
| 15:15 | <Talman> | Ah, ok. |
| 15:15 | <JshWright> | randallman: they would be at the bottom of the left side-bar |
| 15:15 | <randallman> | mdcollins, heh man |
| 15:16 | <randallman> | Jsh, I r fail then |
| 15:16 | <randallman> | I just signed up a month or so ago |
| 15:16 | <JshWright> | jcy`: /msg me an e-ddress if you want an invite |
| 15:16 | <randallman> | some rasta left me a VM |
| 15:16 | <randallman> | and the translator had a REAL hard time :) |
| 15:16 | <randallman> | I've submitted it to improve the experience, but good freekin luck |
| 15:16 | <mdcollins> | haha |
| 15:17 | <randallman> | if I could just port my personal cell number to google voice. |
| 15:17 | <randallman> | I no longer need my personal cell |
| 15:17 | <randallman> | but I do need a personal # |
| 15:17 | <RobertMeta> | randallman, you can point your cell VM to google voice |
| 15:17 | <randallman> | and changing.... well its just too hard. |
| 15:17 | <RobertMeta> | for the transcription |
| 15:18 | <jess^> | let me see if i have an invite |
| 15:18 | <randallman> | I want to stop paying for the cell phone :) |
| 15:18 | <RobertMeta> | randallman, you got an N900 or something? |
| 15:18 | <RobertMeta> | hehe |
| 15:18 | <randallman> | but I want the original number. |
| 15:18 | <Guspaz> | I got a gvoice invite. But they banned Canada after they bought Grand Central :( |
| 15:18 | <jess^> | aww no invites. :( |
| 15:18 | <randallman> | Banned Canada? :P |
| 15:19 | <randallman> | I had a buddy from France who was here on a H1B for a while and kept his US vonage... Good old 'tail end hop off' for cheap intl. calls |
| 15:19 | <randallman> | But they busted him after a few months :) |
| 15:19 | <Talman> | US numbers only. |
| 15:19 | <Guspaz> | randallman: It was offered to Canadians before, IIRC. The US and Canada share a single telephone system. It's the same country code (1) |
| 15:19 | <randallman> | Guspaz, yah weird isnt it? :P |
| 15:19 | <straterra> | Canadians are 1? |
| 15:19 | <straterra> | wtf |
| 15:19 | <randallman> | exactly! :P |
| 15:19 | <straterra> | I don't want to share a country code with them |
| 15:19 | <Talman> | Google doesn't want to deal with Canadians during this beta. :) |
| 15:19 | <randallman> | we have to *SHARE* a fscking country code? :P |
| 15:20 | <mdcollins> | yeah, its weird |
| 15:20 | <Talman> | Amusingly, my company uses google voice for its main number. |
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| 15:20 | <RobertMeta> | Talman, sorta clever, it can ring multiple places, someone will answer |
| 15:20 | <randallman> | Once you can switch a number *to* google voice, that'll be the bomb |
| 15:20 | <RobertMeta> | sorta a cheap setup |
| 15:20 | <randallman> | and I'd PAY for that... |
| 15:20 | <Talman> | Indeed. |
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| 15:20 | <randallman> | 5.95 a month or some crap would be fine with me |
| 15:20 | <Talman> | RobertMeta, indeed. |
| 15:20 | <mdcollins> | yeah, i like my cell # too much to get rid of it |
| 15:20 | <mdcollins> | plus it makes a song |
| 15:20 | <Guspaz> | randallman: They've been doing that in beta. |
| 15:20 | <Guspaz> | Porting. |
| 15:21 | <Guspaz> | Some journalists tried it. |
| 15:21 | <Talman> | By US law, they have to port out. |
| 15:21 | <Guspaz> | Talman: Are you sure? You're not paying for the number, so you don't own it. |
| 15:21 | <randallman> | well |
| 15:21 | <Guspaz> | Also, are you sure porting doesn't just apply to telephone lines? |
| 15:21 | <randallman> | tyhey charge a 10$ fee to SWITCH #'s |
| 15:21 | <Guspaz> | Google Voice isn't a telephone line. |
| 15:22 | <Talman> | Neither is my cell phone. |
| 15:22 | <randallman> | are cell phone's telephone lines? |
| 15:22 | <randallman> | yah |
| 15:22 | <Guspaz> | Yes. |
| 15:22 | * | mdcollins looked up his google voice # and it shows up as Level 3 communications |
| 15:22 | <Talman> | You can take your number from Google Voice. |
| 15:22 | <Talman> | Mine shows up as sprint. |
| 15:22 | <Talman> | They bought a bunch of number blocks from Telcos. |
| 15:22 | <randallman> | My wife has a phone number with only 2 #'s |
| 15:22 | <Talman> | Getting your number in, though, is the hard part. |
| 15:22 | <randallman> | Im jealous |
| 15:23 | <Talman> | Since there's no law requiring it. |
| 15:23 | <randallman> | Now you can call my wife in 2^7th tries :P |
| 15:23 | <Talman> | The law requires that if I try to port my number to another system, you have to let me. |
| 15:23 | <randallman> | if you know my area code :) |
| 15:23 | <randallman> | well 2^6+like 5 |
| 15:23 | <Talman> | Wait, you can't buy the Swiss Minigun in the US, but you can in Canada. And the English told them to fuck off. |
| 15:23 | <randallman> | since the first digit cant be a nine or a 1 |
| 15:24 | <randallman> | no that algy is wrong, but either way :) |
| 15:26 | <Guspaz> | What do you mean the first digit can't be a 9? |
| 15:27 | <Guspaz> | My best friend's phone number starts with a 9. |
| 15:27 | <mdcollins> | there are area codes of 925 916 and probably many others. |
| 15:27 | <Peng> | It's fake! |
| 15:27 | <Guspaz> | 514-907-xxxx ... |
| 15:28 | <Guspaz> | So both the 7 and 10 digit numbers can start with 9. |
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| 15:28 | <@jed> | my old cell was 925-895 |
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| 15:29 | <Peng> | Newark IPv6 outage? :D |
| 15:30 | <Peng> | Well, a blink... |
| 15:30 | <Guspaz> | Well, since there is no IPv6 service, there can be no outage. |
| 15:30 | <randallman> | Ok well I guess the # can start with 9 |
| 15:30 | <randallman> | I dunno why the hell I thought it couldnt :) |
| 15:30 | <Peng> | s/Newark/HE NYC/ then. :P |
| 15:31 | <Peng> | randallman: Confusing it with SSNns maybe? |
| 15:31 | <Peng> | Err, SSNs* |
| 15:31 | <randallman> | SS7? :P |
| 15:31 | <Daevien> | randallman: your office here where i live is in area code 902 :p |
| 15:31 | <Guspaz> | I'd assume that you can't have 514-911-xxxx or 911-xxx-xxxx |
| 15:31 | <randallman> | SS7 SSN, close enough :) |
| 15:31 | <randallman> | Daevien, hey man! |
| 15:31 | <Daevien> | hey |
| 15:32 | <randallman> | Guspaz, either way Im in no mood to calculate an algorithm to figure out the number of possible 7 digit phone numbers containing only 2 numbers |
| 15:33 | <randallman> | 2^7 - some fixed # of invalids :P |
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| 15:34 | <Daevien> | what new with you randallman? |
| 15:34 | <randallman> | Not much at all |
| 15:34 | <Guspaz> | We had to drop 7-digit phone numbers when we ran out of space in the 514 area code, causing Montreal to need a second area code. |
| 15:34 | <randallman> | fixin to look into DNSSEC for our managed DNS |
| 15:35 | <Guspaz> | Not that I could tell you what the other area code is from memory, which would make it fun trying to figure out if a call was long distance. |
| 15:35 | <randallman> | Guspaz, same here with philly... But not in delaware. So delawarians still get upset when you say 302 first :p |
| 15:35 | <Daevien> | i'm drowning in computers right now, everyone decided to bring in their computers ot be fixed today. so i have 2.5 hours to fix like um, 8 systems that others have promised. and i have room to setup 3 really (no work area really, it's literally a corner by 3 office) |
| 15:35 | <Guspaz> | All of 514 is local, some of 450 (off-island) is local, and all of (insert other Montreal area code) is local. |
| 15:36 | <randallman> | Daevien, you seeing numbers of busted ass boxes drop off a bit though with Windows 7 ? |
| 15:36 | <jcy`> | thanks to an unnamed person, i got a google voice account and an awesome phone # |
| 15:36 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:36 | <Daevien> | Guspaz: and in NS, we share the 902 code with PEI too lol |
| 15:36 | <randallman> | or are people making all new mistakes now? |
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| 15:36 | <jcy`> | 450 2040 |
| 15:36 | <Guspaz> | Ah, 438. |
| 15:36 | <randallman> | jcy, not bad :p |
| 15:36 | <Daevien> | randallman: yeah, sorta.. the problem is that most people that are clueless with malware are still running vista/xp cause they upgrade once a decade |
| 15:36 | <RobertMeta> | mikegrb's most general feedback on the channel "lolz" -- what you don't know, is that it is a script, mikegrb left the company 2 years ago, but his script lives on |
| 15:36 | <randallman> | I got 439-0005 |
| 15:37 | <jcy`> | i really really wanted 512 1024, but that wasn't available in any area code |
| 15:37 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:37 | <tcsh> | lol |
| 15:37 | <tcsh> | trigger |
| 15:37 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:37 | <tcsh> | lol |
| 15:37 | <jcy`> | http://lol.com |
| 15:37 | <RobertMeta> | 256-512-1024 == epic and possibly real phone number for AL |
| 15:37 | <Guspaz> | Why would you want an area code that is long distance from you? |
| 15:37 | <JshWright> | RobertMeta: that's why he's not opo'd |
| 15:37 | <Daevien> | RobertMeta: i have actually seen mike say something that wasn't a trigger once :p |
| 15:37 | <JshWright> | s/opo'd/op'd/ |
| 15:37 | <RobertMeta> | Daevien, your lies don't phase me. |
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| 15:37 | <jcy`> | guspaz, if my friends can't afford to call domestic long distance, i don't want them as friends |
| 15:38 | <Daevien> | randallman: i have seen win7 infested machines thoug, one took the owner all of a week, i was impressed |
| 15:38 | <jcy`> | but you're right i did get a local area code |
| 15:38 | <randallman> | Still lots of self-inflicted crap |
| 15:38 | <Guspaz> | Hrrm, but if the phone company is going to charge like 35 cents a minute... |
| 15:38 | <randallman> | I imagine |
| 15:38 | <randallman> | people clicking allow when they shouldnt :) |
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| 15:38 | <jcy`> | i don't think cell phones charge those exorbitant rates for domestic calls |
| 15:39 | <RobertMeta> | yeah, generally don't care |
| 15:39 | <Daevien> | though, since a lot go with norton, not all that surprising i guess. i hate the cheap acer owners that continue to try and use mcafee. they always whine when they come back and mcafee says they are protected but they have 5zillion popups |
| 15:39 | <RobertMeta> | more about where you are (roaming) than were you call |
| 15:39 | <Peng> | Yeah, cell phones gouge you for Internet access. :P |
| 15:39 | <Guspaz> | I use a dialaround (3.5) or skype (2.8) for long distance on my cellphone. |
| 15:39 | <jcy`> | peng, i'm more offended by how much txt msg's cost |
| 15:39 | <Guspaz> | Otherwise my long distance is 35 cents per minute on my cel. |
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| 15:40 | <jcy`> | canaduh must suck |
| 15:40 | <jcy`> | telecom wise i mean |
| 15:40 | <RobertMeta> | ... Guspaz for in your country?! |
| 15:40 | <randallman> | and thier heads split in two horizontally when they talk.... the top part completely seperating from the bottom at the mouth line... |
| 15:40 | <Guspaz> | RobertMeta: Yes. |
| 15:41 | <jcy`> | i see what you did there randallman |
| 15:41 | <Daevien> | long distance anywhere on canadian cells sucks for price |
| 15:41 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz, in CA? |
| 15:41 | <Guspaz> | Yes. |
| 15:41 | <RobertMeta> | Guspaz, you can get an UNLIMITED plan in the US that also covers CA via AT&T |
| 15:41 | <RobertMeta> | if you are willing to lie about your address :) |
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| 15:41 | <jcy`> | Guspaz don't worry you can always call me collect |
| 15:41 | <Guspaz> | But I'd have a US phone number. Nobody would call me. |
| 15:41 | <Guspaz> | I'd be long distance to everyone. |
| 15:41 | <Daevien> | canadian telcos are regulated a lot.. but they just push their buddies up in the regulation organizations to kepe their monopoly & ripoffs |
| 15:42 | <RobertMeta> | my gosh... I am sorry, that is awful. |
| 15:42 | <Interesteeeed> | do I have to transfer my domains to Lindoe?? |
| 15:42 | <RobertMeta> | Interesteeeed, no, just point the DNS entires to them |
| 15:42 | <Guspaz> | Interesteeeed: No, only if you want to. |
| 15:42 | <Peng> | Interesteeeed: Linode is not a registrar at all, though they do provide a hosted DNS service. |
| 15:42 | <Daevien> | yes, your ns records if you want to use the domain manager or whatver it's called for dns stuff, otherwise no |
| 15:42 | <Interesteeeed> | would it better to have it here? |
| 15:43 | * | RobertMeta actually prefers to seperate registration, dns serving, and general servering -- makes changing any individual part easier |
| 15:43 | <Peng> | Interesteeeed: Shrug. Linode's DNS service is pretty awesome. Use whatever you like. |
| 15:43 | * | RobertMeta uses GoDaddy, DnsMadeEasy, Linode (and many others) |
| 15:44 | <Daevien> | i use the linode ones, dont really have the need or desire to run my own or pay to use something else since the linode one is good for most stuff |
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| 15:44 | <Guspaz> | Google voice on cellphones will change things a lot in Canada, since it will mean free long distance. It will force carriers to drop long distance charges. |
| 15:44 | <Daevien> | if bell, etc doesn't get them banned or something from the market |
| 15:44 | <Daevien> | crtc is stupid & corrupt |
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| 15:45 | <Guspaz> | Pretty much. |
| 15:45 | <Daevien> | for all the things i like about Canada, I'll admit that some things are fubar, telco is one of them |
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| 15:46 | <Talman> | Canadian Telco is awesome. ;) |
| 15:46 | <Daevien> | their setup & stuff can be awesome. their pricing & terms of service, etc are horrid |
| 15:46 | <Guspaz> | Not to those of us who have to use it. |
| 15:46 | <Talman> | Guspaz, they still have LD charges on cell phones there? :) |
| 15:47 | <Guspaz> | Yes. |
| 15:47 | <Guspaz> | Expensive ones. |
| 15:47 | <Guspaz> | You can circumvent with callback/dialaround/voip |
| 15:47 | <Talman> | I had a Rogers SIM card for my AT&T phone. |
| 15:47 | <Daevien> | one of the largest, bell, just finally is starting to do sim cards for phones :p |
| 15:47 | <Talman> | I used it for the one day, every two weeks, that i was in Vancouver. |
| 15:47 | <Talman> | I had to buy it in some hole in the wall reseller. :| |
| 15:47 | <Guspaz> | Daevien: No, they switched from CDMA to GSM. SIM cards came with that. |
| 15:48 | <jcy`> | going home, #linode helps make the workday go by faster, thanks much |
| 15:48 | <Talman> | What i hated was I couldn't even call 911 on my AT&T phone, Canada was blocked. |
| 15:48 | <BeBoo> | ur mom helps the workday go faster |
| 15:48 | <Guspaz> | Hmm, I could get a Google Voice number and use it for free *outgoing* long distance, even if it wasn't useful for people to call me... |
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| 15:48 | <mdcollins> | lucky.. im stuck working for about another 6 hours. |
| 15:48 | <Talman> | It won't allow you to link a canadian number, will it? |
| 15:48 | <Daevien> | Guspaz: yeah. still took them forever :p |
| 15:49 | <Daevien> | wouldn;'t last i tried Talman, but thats been a bit |
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| 15:50 | <Talman> | that sucks., |
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| 15:50 | <Talman> | Hell, Sprint is still CMDA. |
| 15:50 | <Talman> | But my nextel requires a SIM card. |
| 15:50 | <Talman> | Mainly because iDEN credentials are on the SIM. |
| 15:50 | <Talman> | So, that, you know... Corporations could swap phones out. |
| 15:51 | <Guspaz> | Talman: Yeah, you're right, you can't forward to Canada either. Except, it's rumoured, 403 in Alberta. |
| 15:51 | <Talman> | weird |
| 15:51 | <Talman> | WHo'd Alberta blow? |
| 15:51 | <Guspaz> | I could get an Alberta (or US) DID and just pay the half cent a minute or so for forwarding with voip.ms |
| 15:51 | <Guspaz> | Double forwarding FTW! |
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| 15:53 | <Guspaz> | It'd be Caller -> Google Voice -> voip.ms -> me, that can't be good for quality or latency. |
| 15:53 | <Daevien> | google sends me mail: here you can use voice now! *signup* oh, you are in canada, get lost! |
| 15:53 | <Guspaz> | Ditto |
| 15:53 | <Peng> | You'd think Google would know where you live. |
| 15:53 | <Nivex> | Google knows all |
| 15:54 | <Daevien> | i liked my rate when i was in texas better: free. i ran the voip servers :p |
| 15:55 | <Talman> | Actually... |
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| 15:55 | <Talman> | I did Google Voice to IPKall to FreeWorldDialUp to a linode running Asterisk. |
| 15:55 | <Talman> | latency was undetectable. |
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| 15:56 | <Nivex> | yeesh, that's a lot of hops |
| 15:56 | <Nivex> | IPKall does IAX2 now, so that's one less :) |
| 15:56 | <Daevien> | asterisk is a nice program. it's also equally good at making you rip your hair out in chunks, or had been. it's got better docs & far more users than when i used it so more supported devices, etc |
| 15:57 | <Guspaz> | I'm not sure I trust ipkall. Why is it free? |
| 15:58 | <Talman> | Is it still free? |
| 15:58 | <Guspaz> | So claims their website. |
| 15:58 | <Nivex> | Guspaz: I'm not sure I trust Google. |
| 15:58 | <Talman> | Oh, easy. You only get washington. |
| 15:58 | <Nivex> | Talman: yes |
| 15:58 | <Guspaz> | Google shows me ads. I know how *they* make money... |
| 15:59 | <Talman> | Also, they're free because they're just throwing extra numbers out. |
| 15:59 | <Talman> | Ok, this is the part I don't quite get. |
| 15:59 | <Talman> | I have asterisk setup on my linode. |
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| 15:59 | <RobertMeta> | bleh, recently I have lost 10mbit on my home connection |
| 15:59 | <Talman> | I was going to use freepbx to configure it, but I don't quite know how to get that working. :) |
| 15:59 | * | RobertMeta searches for it |
| 16:00 | <Nivex> | I know nothing about FreePBX. I configure my Asterisk by hand. |
| 16:00 | <Talman> | If I choose IAX, what the hell is my SIP hone number? :) |
| 16:00 | <Talman> | Yeah, I used to as well. |
| 16:00 | <Talman> | I just can't wrap my head around anything anymore. :( |
| 16:01 | <Nivex> | that's a fault in their UI |
| 16:01 | <randallman> | NICE |
| 16:01 | <randallman> | RHCE PASS |
| 16:01 | <randallman> | 100% RHCT, 100% RHCE |
| 16:01 | <Nivex> | put whatever IAX2 username you use in for SIP phone number |
| 16:01 | <Talman> | Yeah, I think I need an IAX number deployed first. |
| 16:01 | * | Nivex just uses "guest" |
| 16:01 | <Talman> | heh |
| 16:01 | <Nivex> | randallman: congratulations! |
| 16:01 | <randallman> | Danke |
| 16:02 | <tcsh> | congrats randall |
| 16:02 | <Talman> | sweet, and thanks, Nivex. Also, good job, randallman. |
| 16:02 | <jess^> | meh, redshat |
| 16:02 | <Nivex> | jess^: hey, it pays the bills |
| 16:02 | <Talman> | I started on Red Hat. |
| 16:02 | <Talman> | So, I know how weird they are. :) |
| 16:02 | <Nivex> | I'd rather be working on Red Hat boxen than Windows. |
| 16:02 | * | RobertMeta enables his early congrats. |
| 16:02 | <RobertMeta> | Nivex, meh. |
| 16:03 | <dhoss> | RobertMeta: idgi but congrats! |
| 16:03 | <RobertMeta> | Nivex, 2008 RC2 versus RH.. meh |
| 16:03 | <Talman> | Also, Guspaz, the reason its free is because if you don't know what you're doing, don't have a SIP/IAX system to forward to... |
| 16:03 | <Talman> | You use Kall8 and then pay money. |
| 16:04 | <Guspaz> | kall8 is a ripoff. voip.ms does US toll-free numbers for a third the price per minute. |
| 16:04 | <Guspaz> | And it would seem half the price for the did per month |
| 16:05 | <Talman> | I want FreePBX working, just because it pisses me off. :) |
| 16:05 | <Daevien> | nivex: i used to run hand configured asterisk servers with chinese programmers doing java front end. java = scary. java in chinese = terrifying |
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| 16:06 | <Nivex> | Daevien: ... |
| 16:06 | <Daevien> | grats randallman |
| 16:06 | <Guspaz> | Congratulation on completing your Retro Hologram Cremation Experience. |
| 16:07 | <Talman> | What the hell is FreeSWITCH? :) |
| 16:07 | <Daevien> | FreeSWITCH is an open source telephony platform designed to facilitate the creation of voice and chat driven products scaling from a soft-phone up to a ... |
| 16:07 | <Daevien> | according ot my 5 sec google search :p |
| 16:08 | <Daevien> | does seem to be interesting though according to their blurb |
| 16:11 | <RobertMeta> | blubs are like trailors, often misleading |
| 16:11 | <Daevien> | looks like sangoma is involved with freeswithc as well, interesting |
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| 16:16 | <aveng3r> | How, cant anyone here activate my account |
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| 16:17 | <aveng3r> | I already paid "Linode 360" plan, with visa |
| 16:18 | <Talman> | RIght. |
| 16:18 | <Guspaz> | It will be activated in due time, alternatively you can call them, e-mail them, or try to get the attention of one of the ops |
| 16:18 | <Guspaz> | !ops |
| 16:18 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. or urmom. |
| 16:18 | <Talman> | I just got FreePBX working. Instead of reading howto's, etc... I just started thinking. |
| 16:18 | <Daevien> | it should activate within a few minutes if i remember correctly, been a while sinc ei signed up now |
| 16:18 | <Nivex> | Talman: what is this "thinking" you speak of? |
| 16:18 | <Guspaz> | Daevien: Normal activations are instant. |
| 16:18 | <Guspaz> | They're only not if they get flagged for investigation. |
| 16:18 | <Talman> | I installed it, then added www-data to the apache group. |
| 16:18 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Email garbled... in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5296>; |
| 16:19 | <Talman> | aveng3r, basically, one of two things happened. Their automated system flagged your card for investigation, or the order is being processed. |
| 16:19 | <Talman> | Look for an email. |
| 16:20 | <aveng3r> | the problem is that the transaction was done with success, I received an email "Payment Receipt", but when I try to log in the system I got the message: Your account is currently pending activation |
| 16:20 | <aveng3r> | but I didn't receive any e-mail to confirm |
| 16:20 | <Talman> | Then it may of been flagged for investigation. |
| 16:20 | <Talman> | Give em a call. |
| 16:20 | <@jed> | no, don't |
| 16:20 | <@jed> | I'm looking at it right now |
| 16:20 | <aveng3r> | omg, I'm from Brazil, what the eay way to solve this? |
| 16:21 | <aveng3r> | *easy |
| 16:21 | <Talman> | Wait. |
| 16:21 | <Talman> | Or email them. |
| 16:21 | <@caker> | aveng3r: all set! |
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| 16:21 | <Talman> | Or, look at IRC. |
| 16:22 | <aveng3r> | "Welcome to Linode!" |
| 16:22 | <aveng3r> | thanks all |
| 16:22 | <aveng3r> | =] |
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| 16:22 | <aveng3r> | good services |
| 16:22 | <Daevien> | welcome to the club, you can't leave it now btw :p |
| 16:22 | <tcsh> | I want to visit Brazil some day |
| 16:23 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 16:23 | <aveng3r> | lol, I'm sorry with my english, it is very limited |
| 16:23 | <tcsh> | I hope that translation software for phones works well someday |
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| 16:23 | <tcsh> | I don't think I can learn Portugese |
| 16:23 | <aveng3r> | I want put a project helping freebsd kernel at linode.com |
| 16:23 | <Guspaz> | I want to visit home. |
| 16:23 | <@caker> | how to free the bsd? |
| 16:23 | <aveng3r> | Now, I'm gonna work, one more thanks for the assistance |
| 16:23 | <@caker> | aveng3r: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/BSD_Howto |
| 16:23 | <Guspaz> | aveng3r: As a warning, getting freebd running on a linode isn't easy |
| 16:24 | <@caker> | running a few commands isn't easy?! |
| 16:24 | <aveng3r> | no problems, I'll install slack |
| 16:24 | <Guspaz> | Slackware?!? |
| 16:24 | <Guspaz> | Hmm, where is he. |
| 16:24 | <aveng3r> | Yes =~ |
| 16:24 | <Guspaz> | I said... slackware... |
| 16:24 | <Daevien> | Guspaz: i think he turned that one off :p |
| 16:24 | <Guspaz> | Damn it, mikegrb. |
| 16:24 | <Daevien> | or i said it too much and broke him |
| 16:24 | <Talman> | Ineresting, freepbx worked, now its freaking out and giving 403s. |
| 16:24 | <Talman> | And I just got the STUPIDEST trouble ticket known to man. |
| 16:25 | <Guspaz> | I heard that there are now third party package managers for slackware. Welcome to the 1990s! |
| 16:25 | <Daevien> | Talman: thats the best kidn of error: the one that wasn't there and nthign seems ot have changed |
| 16:25 | <aveng3r> | Guspaz: very funny, hehe |
| 16:26 | <aveng3r> | well, have all a good weekend (I think I wrote this right), exit(0); |
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| 16:26 | <Guspaz> | throw new Exception("ciao"); |
| 16:27 | <randallman> | SIGSEGV |
| 16:28 | <Peng> | Talman: You say you got the stupidest trouble ticket known to man, and don't give us the details!? |
| 16:29 | <randallman> | Always Remember: There's always a user who is dumber than the one you are dealing with |
| 16:30 | <quantum> | Hi guys have a question regardins, I am trying to protect a dir and here is what I have AuthType Basic AuthName secure AuthUserFile /home/user/.secure/.htpasswd require valid-user but this doens't seem to be working. Any Ideas? |
| 16:30 | <quantum> | I am using the default apache config |
| 16:30 | <randallman> | AllowOverride AuthConfig |
| 16:30 | <randallman> | Directory context |
| 16:31 | <Daevien> | i had 3 tickets form teh same person when i worked at register.com ... first was complaining about his cable tv going out, second was about losing his key to his safe deposit & i forget the third, but equally stupid and NOT relevant to a domain registrar |
| 16:31 | <randallman> | What'd you do there? |
| 16:31 | <randallman> | deal with customers? |
| 16:31 | <randallman> | or deal with IT? |
| 16:31 | <randallman> | did you use NC2 or Janus? |
| 16:31 | <randallman> | blah blah blah |
| 16:31 | <@Octopus> | o.O |
| 16:31 | <Daevien> | was there when they first came to canada |
| 16:31 | <Daevien> | so like um, april or so 2001 |
| 16:32 | <quantum> | and I have created .htpasswd file by: hrrandallman: thanks. I tired that but still no luck |
| 16:32 | <Daevien> | before janus def, forget the name of the ticket system, it was liek 3 pakcages ago i think |
| 16:32 | <Talman> | I just got a Dell Vostro Notebook 1400 for free. |
| 16:32 | <Talman> | Someone said the unit "was in a storm, on a surge protector, but it won't turn on." |
| 16:32 | <Daevien> | i skipped the first level of general rep,went to advanced billing training my first day.. then went to level 2 support.. then left |
| 16:32 | <Talman> | So, we'll see if its a fried mainboard, or more likely the fuse popped. |
| 16:32 | <randallman> | Daevien, they werent using RT2 at the time? |
| 16:33 | <randallman> | and NC2 would have been nameconsole2, the corporate customer frontend? |
| 16:33 | <Daevien> | i forget what it was, it was back before they had teh building even, i worked at the local college in 2 rooms we had :p |
| 16:33 | <randallman> | written on IIS Commerce Server? |
| 16:33 | <randallman> | gotcha :) |
| 16:33 | <Daevien> | so before that i think |
| 16:33 | <Daevien> | they had what i used, another one then janus i thikn |
| 16:33 | <randallman> | Back in what, 1998, register.com was all perl |
| 16:34 | <randallman> | and they had some shell meta vulnerabilities :0- |
| 16:34 | <randallman> | *cough* |
| 16:34 | <Daevien> | but i know a bunch that work there, one girl just (ie: 5 misn ago) finished her last shift here at staples and is starting at rcom monday in web design :p |
| 16:34 | <Talman> | And it looks like wer'e getting two that are "junk." |
| 16:34 | <Daevien> | rcom's ticket system when i was there coudl be accessed from remote |
| 16:34 | <randallman> | which is why it was ironic that I wound up working for what remained of buyout 10 years later. |
| 16:34 | <Daevien> | so befor ei went in to work, i'd cherry pick some easy tickets when i was bored. we weren't 24h even at that point for support :p |
| 16:35 | <Daevien> | i'd go in and had 15 tickets instantly done heh |
| 16:35 | <Daevien> | all the managers & leads were from NY and they all knew they were losing their jobs when we got trained, so they screwed us all around |
| 16:35 | <Daevien> | i was in the 3rd group of 20 hired, first group that didnt' come straight from the tech college here |
| 16:39 | <Talman> | This is the trouble ticket: CX call, advised upstairs PC has IE logo going to "alary's bar mail," instead of Alary's Bar website for homepage. CT advised CX to drag IE logo from right hand side of screen to desktop, which will drop IE onto desktop |
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| 16:59 | <Daevien> | hmm, anyone have any suggestions on an alternative to an ipod touch that has about the same features? ie: video, music, browser, good rss feed reader would be cool too. as well as any ability to be moddable / run linux /etc? |
| 16:59 | <Daevien> | some of the archos stuff looks interesting form my initial looking around |
| 16:59 | <Guspaz> | PSP Go? Doesn't have that last one, but... |
| 17:00 | <Guspaz> | Nokia has some things that run linux. |
| 17:00 | <Guspaz> | They're strange things, not phones, not pdas... |
| 17:00 | <Guspaz> | "internet tablet" |
| 17:00 | <Daevien> | well, doesn have to be linux or moddable. but would be a big plus |
| 17:01 | <Guspaz> | n900 would be the current one I guess. |
| 17:01 | <Daevien> | yeah, that was the other thing i thought of, the n800 & 900 i think are sort of the same type of thing |
| 17:01 | <Guspaz> | I think you can put whatever OS on it you want. |
| 17:02 | <Daevien> | mostly i want it for videos / podcasts, music, rss feeds & occasional browsing |
| 17:02 | <Guspaz> | Have you considered the iPod Touch? :P |
| 17:02 | <Daevien> | i've got an ipod touch, but just an 8gb. not sure i really want to shell out the money for a 32gb and end up with another apple product or not... |
| 17:03 | <Daevien> | i got the 8gb one cheap is why i got that one. i just find it's low on storage, it will work ok, but if i had more it would be better. jsut wondering if there's anythign even more geeky that's non apple though :p |
| 17:04 | <MetaCosm> | whoever was asking about must have boot cd earlier, Bart PE |
| 17:05 | <Daevien> | yeah, thats handy too. i do most everything with trinity tools though really. can mount ntfs with full read/write, nuke windows passwords, mirror a drive, etc |
| 17:05 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:05 | <Daevien> | er, trinity rescue kit to be more precise, my cousin calls it trinity tools and has gotten me into that bad habit lol |
| 17:05 | * | Daevien stabs mikegrb |
| 17:05 | <Mau> | How do I change which repository is apt-get using? |
| 17:06 | <mtkoan> | mau: /etc/apt/source.list |
| 17:06 | <Mau> | Huh, sorry, I mean mirror. |
| 17:07 | <Daevien> | it's /etc/apt/sources.list actually, but thats the place mau |
| 17:07 | <Mau> | Oh wait. |
| 17:07 | <Daevien> | what dist you using? |
| 17:07 | <Mau> | Yes, sorry. |
| 17:07 | <Mau> | Ubuntu. |
| 17:07 | <Mau> | I just noticed that source.list has the specific mirrors. |
| 17:07 | <Daevien> | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors |
| 17:08 | <Daevien> | list of mirrors for ubuntu withhow far behind they are, location, etc |
| 17:09 | <Daevien> | longer list on my link thaan your server has prob, so might find one closer / better |
| 17:09 | <Daevien> | and there used to be a program that would take the list & try to figure out which ones were best for you, i jsut forget it's name off the top of my head |
| 17:10 | <Daevien> | mirrorselect maybe? something like that |
| 17:11 | <Mau> | Thanks for the help. :D I think the mirror around here is having problems. |
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| 17:12 | <Mau> | Yeap, no more version mismatch. |
| 17:12 | <Mau> | Thanks. |
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| 17:13 | <Daevien> | np |
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| 17:20 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 17:21 | <Talman> | Hmm? |
| 17:22 | <Interesteeeed> | Im looking for a host.. Right now im in a fully managed (Hostmonster) and Im looking for a vps... Im not that expert in linux would u recommned linode? |
| 17:22 | <Talman> | Yes, I would. |
| 17:22 | <Talman> | You can learn Linux. |
| 17:22 | <Talman> | But WHY are you looking for a host? |
| 17:22 | <Talman> | Tired of shared hosting? |
| 17:23 | <Interesteeeed> | yeah I saw my host down a couple of times |
| 17:23 | <Talman> | SpaceHobo, I forget, but I think you can unbind the Mace, which is basically one step away from "I'm gonna beat you with the sticks." |
| 17:24 | <@Octopus> | Did you know HoR is pronounced WHORE?! |
| 17:24 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 17:24 | <linbot> | http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk |
| 17:25 | <Talman> | Interesteeeed, if you're intersted in learning Linux, go for it. |
| 17:25 | <Talman> | That way, you and only you are the reason your site is down. |
| 17:25 | <Talman> | (Network issues not withstanding) |
| 17:25 | <@Octopus> | There's also an awesome library of docs if you're new :) |
| 17:26 | <Interesteeeed> | are there any docs or something > |
| 17:26 | <@Octopus> | http://library.linode.com/ |
| 17:26 | <Daevien> | Interesteeeed: it's a lot more work than a managed setup though, thats the biggest thign to consider. you might want to leave your sites on the managed until you are comfortable and not tweaking / breaking your linode |
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| 17:26 | <@Octopus> | http://library.linode.com/getting-started/ |
| 17:26 | <Talman> | Like I said. YOu will the reason taht your site goes down. ;) |
| 17:26 | <@Octopus> | If you start there, it kinda walks you through the whole process, then the next doc teaches you some basic things |
| 17:26 | <@Octopus> | And so on |
| 17:27 | <Daevien> | rm -rf /linode/users/talman |
| 17:27 | <Daevien> | :p |
| 17:27 | <@Octopus> | Noes :( |
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| 17:27 | <Daevien> | peri was trying to be sneaky |
| 17:27 | <@Perihelion> | Nein |
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| 17:28 | <pheezy> | Will this day not end!? |
| 17:28 | <randallman> | its MILLER TIME |
| 17:28 | <Guspaz> | I prefer Rickards. |
| 17:28 | <randallman> | I prefer Hoegaarden |
| 17:28 | <Daevien> | pheezy: mine is supposed to end in 30 mins. that 30 mins is going to take forever i think |
| 17:28 | <pheezy> | Mine is too! |
| 17:28 | <@Perihelion> | Haha...hoe garden |
| 17:28 | <Guspaz> | errm, Rickard's |
| 17:28 | <randallman> | BUt it doesnt sound right saying, "ITS HOEGAARDEN TIME" |
| 17:28 | <pheezy> | I prefer Fireman's #4 |
| 17:29 | <randallman> | Peri, why laf? |
| 17:29 | <Daevien> | randallman: depends wher eyou are |
| 17:29 | <randallman> | Is there only one A? :P |
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| 17:29 | <pheezy> | However, Miller Time began at 12:30PM :| |
| 17:29 | <randallman> | Shit, you could drink miller light all day long every day |
| 17:29 | <randallman> | and still not be drunk |
| 17:29 | <randallman> | OR an alcoholic :0 |
| 17:29 | <Daevien> | heh |
| 17:29 | <Guspaz> | Apparently Rickard's Red is the top selling beer in Canada. |
| 17:30 | <randallman> | My fav... Franziskaner |
| 17:30 | <randallman> | not the dunkel... |
| 17:30 | <randallman> | Hefe Weisen |
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| 17:30 | <Daevien> | annoying acer 24" led screen is taunting me. it knows today is payday and i have money... |
| 17:31 | <randallman> | heh do you get a discount worthy of not buying from newegg? |
| 17:31 | <Guspaz> | Oh, yes, yesterday was payday, I need to pay my visa bill... |
| 17:31 | <tcsh> | i have an acer 24" that work bought and i am very unhappy about it |
| 17:31 | <Peng> | You know what else you can spend money on? Linodes! |
| 17:31 | <Daevien> | 10% discount |
| 17:31 | <tcsh> | i have a dell 24" that i love to death |
| 17:31 | <randallman> | Daevien, so no :p |
| 17:31 | <tcsh> | the acer has horrible color bleed |
| 17:31 | <Peng> | Plus this channel's other favorite thing, guns. :P |
| 17:31 | <Daevien> | can actually match newegg + shippign then take off 10% if that was cheaper too |
| 17:32 | <Guspaz> | I bought a Dell G2410 when it was on sale for $259 (at the time, a great price), I quite like it. |
| 17:32 | * | randallman is rockin' dual HP 22's.... not LED |
| 17:32 | <Guspaz> | I wouldn't mind a 27" 2560x1600 monitor, though. |
| 17:32 | <Guspaz> | The G2410 is an LED ^_^ |
| 17:32 | <randallman> | I like duals |
| 17:32 | <Daevien> | tcsh: http://tinyurl.com/yl83vro that one? |
| 17:32 | <randallman> | keep the hot side hot and the cold side cold :) |
| 17:32 | <randallman> | whatever the hell that means |
| 17:32 | <Bowbles> | Is there any way to check load on the host machine of my linode? |
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| 17:33 | <Peng> | Bowbles: No. |
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| 17:33 | <Peng> | Bowbles: Well, unless you're on UML. There's a little bar in the manager, but it isn't very useful on Xen. |
| 17:33 | <Daevien> | we've sold a few of them, setting one up for a friend with parts he got from ncix tomorrow. looks nice here from what i've played around with it and thats only on vga, on hdmi or dvi it owuld look better |
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| 17:34 | <Daevien> | i've got a 24" acer i got last year for a good deal and a 19" crt thats almost 9 years old, bought it when i first started at rcom heh |
| 17:34 | <Daevien> | would be nice ot shuffle the crt off the desk and the current 24 to secondary |
| 17:35 | <Daevien> | but need? nah. definitely want though :p |
| 17:35 | <randallman> | I use 3 of the same HP 2245wg LCD's :P 2 fr the winders box, 1 for the linux box. |
| 17:35 | <randallman> | I'd rather have 3 identical monitors than not :) |
| 17:35 | <randallman> | and therefore I bought them all at the same time for like 700 bucks |
| 17:35 | <randallman> | so that was enough for me :) |
| 17:35 | <Daevien> | my debian box at home runs xen & stuff all headless, had monitor on only for initial install |
| 17:36 | <randallman> | Ahh |
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| 17:36 | <Daevien> | i actually use win7 on my desktop most of the time |
| 17:36 | <randallman> | My ubuntu server here runs KVM and has RHEL and Windows running in it as well as Mythbuntu backend and DNS/DHCP and samba :) |
| 17:36 | <randallman> | freekin core two quads are fast still :) |
| 17:37 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:37 | <Daevien> | this laptop i'm on is running backtrack (12" toshiba, dual core 1.6, 2 gigs of ram, 120gb hd, runs well) & a 15" hp with 9600m gt, 4 gigs of ram, etc laptop runnign win7 as well. only microsloth OS i ever bought lol |
| 17:37 | <randallman> | I think I paid 25 bucks for windows 7 |
| 17:37 | <randallman> | edu discount. |
| 17:37 | <randallman> | and 10 bucks each for office and project 2k7 |
| 17:37 | <randallman> | Home Use Program |
| 17:37 | <randallman> | those are the only M$ software I've ever bought myself without being bundled OEM |
| 17:38 | <Daevien> | i paid nothing for either copy heh, setup a couple systems for people that bougth the 3 user packs and they gave me the extra keys :p |
| 17:38 | <randallman> | but for those prices, its not even worth 'borrowing' your works VLK :) |
| 17:38 | <randallman> | or coping with reregistering on the corp. key server every 6 months |
| 17:38 | <Daevien> | though i will prob bput hte ultiamte i got real cheap (hence the buying) on the 15 |
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| 17:39 | <Interesteeeed> | which linux distro is recommended? |
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| 17:39 | <randallman> | ubuntu (said the dude that just got his RHCE) |
| 17:39 | <mtkoan> | slackware :P |
| 17:39 | <Daevien> | i could get all the microsoft stuff free i suppose, i just haven't bothered. through the local college, my father teaches there and i used to tutor and other stuff there |
| 17:39 | <Peng> | Interesteeeed: Ubuntu is the most popular. |
| 17:39 | <mtkoan> | actually I take that back, even though I use it |
| 17:40 | <randallman> | mtkoan, yes he didnt ask which distro would be the most difficult to use and manage. |
| 17:40 | <randallman> | :P |
| 17:40 | <Daevien> | if you are asking the question, prob means you haven't used linux all that much yet, so i'd say ubuntu as well or maybe debian, jsut for the fac tthat a lot of us use them and the library has a lot that applies to them |
| 17:40 | <randallman> | Interesteeeeed, you can try them all at home if you so choose |
| 17:40 | <randallman> | and have a spare machine/space space on your machine |
| 17:40 | <Peng> | Or you can try them all on Linode. |
| 17:40 | <randallman> | Or yeah, even better :p |
| 17:41 | <Interesteeeed> | i heard debian is the best |
| 17:41 | <Peng> | It's trivially easy to deploy different distros on Linode. |
| 17:41 | <randallman> | Moreover you can run the same one at home and on linode |
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| 17:41 | <bob2> | no, bananas are the best |
| 17:41 | <Peng> | Interesteeeed: There is no best distro. |
| 17:41 | <randallman> | therefore the tinkering you can do at home will not interfere with production at linode |
| 17:42 | <Peng> | Interesteeeed: Debian is a very good distro. So is Ubuntu. |
| 17:42 | <Guspaz> | Peng: But there are worst distros ;) |
| 17:42 | <Daevien> | the best distro is whatever you know best & works for you |
| 17:42 | <mtkoan> | For a beginner, I think Debian a good choice |
| 17:42 | <Daevien> | ubuntu prob easier, it's more hte flavor of the month / whatever |
| 17:42 | <Daevien> | so lot of stuff about it and fixing & setting it up flying around |
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| 17:43 | <bob2> | flavor of the month for 72 months running! |
| 17:43 | <randallman> | Daevien, month? Flavor of the Month? Ubuntu has been pretty much the easiest to use since 6.06 |
| 17:43 | <randallman> | so that's what, damn near 4 years? :P |
| 17:43 | <randallman> | Fedora-12 is also easy to use. |
| 17:43 | <Daevien> | pfft :p |
| 17:43 | <randallman> | but no LTS. |
| 17:44 | <Interesteeeed> | and most stabe for Webserver, mail and apache? |
| 17:44 | <Daevien> | i used to use centos a lot. used that when i first moved to linode as well but then decided to use debian after a bit and have stuck with that |
| 17:45 | <bob2> | Interesteeeed: not really a sensible question |
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| 17:45 | <Daevien> | once you know the basics of linux, it's easier to switch between dists |
| 17:45 | <Peng> | Erk, he's gone. |
| 17:45 | <bob2> | perhaps |
| 17:45 | <bob2> | hm, didn't mean to be harsh :| |
| 17:45 | <Daevien> | he'll be back, he's been doing this for a couple hours |
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| 17:46 | <Guspaz> | can ne1 tell me teh best distu of a/ux? |
| 17:47 | <Daevien> | no, anyone that knows it well has been sent to the loony bin by now |
| 17:47 | <randallman> | a/ux? |
| 17:47 | <Daevien> | apple unix |
| 17:47 | <Talman> | all versions of linux are "the most stable." |
| 17:47 | <randallman> | oh |
| 17:47 | <Daevien> | it died liek 10+ years ago |
| 17:47 | <Daevien> | thankfully :p |
| 17:48 | <Guspaz> | It was Apple's Unix distro from the late 80s to early 90s, with the System 7 interface on top. |
| 17:48 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 17:48 | <mtkoan> | SpaceHobo: haha, so true. |
| 17:48 | <Talman> | Now they just use OS X. :) |
| 17:48 | <Daevien> | slack is still being maintained :p |
| 17:48 | <Talman> | I remember slackware. |
| 17:48 | <randallman> | well I hate distro wars, but ubuntu certainly has 'market velocity' |
| 17:48 | <Guspaz> | A/UX looked a lot better than MacOS to me. |
| 17:48 | <Daevien> | a/ux died in 95 according to wikipedia (so you know, maybe aorund then sometime) |
| 17:48 | <Talman> | Ubuntu is popular as a desktop OS. |
| 17:48 | <mtkoan> | Slackware is fantastic for me |
| 17:48 | <Talman> | I use it for server, just because. |
| 17:48 | <randallman> | and obviously, its based heavily on the work of the debian guys |
| 17:48 | <Talman> | Its simple. |
| 17:49 | <Talman> | Debian is for pepole with long beards. |
| 17:49 | <Guspaz> | randallman: These days I wonder if Ubuntu isn't doing more useful work than the Debian guys. |
| 17:49 | <Talman> | Ubuntu is for people who are clean shaven. |
| 17:49 | <Daevien> | i'm still sort of stuck in the ubuntu is desktop, debian is server mindset :p |
| 17:49 | <randallman> | Talman, it has enterprise deployment toolkits - HP released a ILO driver and SMH/raid controller manager/etc... |
| 17:49 | <randallman> | Canonical offers paid support I believe? |
| 17:49 | <Guspaz> | What about those of us who shave once a week? |
| 17:49 | <Talman> | Ubuntu Server. |
| 17:49 | <Talman> | Yeah, it dpes. |
| 17:49 | <Talman> | does. |
| 17:49 | <randallman> | They are piercing the ISV market slightly |
| 17:49 | <bob2> | they do indeed |
| 17:49 | <randallman> | RedHat will reign supreme |
| 17:50 | <randallman> | for a long time to come in the Linux <-> ISV realm |
| 17:50 | <randallman> | Maybe ubuntu can push suse out :) |
| 17:50 | <randallman> | Im confident that the ISVs cant handle supporting 5 different flavors of linux |
| 17:50 | <Peng> | Wait wait. HedgeMage@router.trelane.net? Who's trelane, then? /me looks at HedgeMage. |
| 17:52 | <randallman> | I do, however, agree that distro competition is healthy |
| 17:52 | <randallman> | lest the supporting applications atrohpy. |
| 17:52 | <randallman> | and various paradigms for management and deployments |
| 17:53 | <Daevien> | no competition = microsloth's market ;) |
| 17:53 | <randallman> | Too bad os2/warp tanked :) |
| 17:53 | <Daevien> | eww, you are evil saying that name |
| 17:54 | <randallman> | wai? |
| 17:54 | <Daevien> | "whats that 30 page file you are lookign at?" "the autoexec.bat equiv" |
| 17:54 | <Talman> | Reading something, and I wonder how this works. |
| 17:54 | <Talman> | The standing US Secretary of State is a former first lady, so she gets secret service protective detail. |
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| 17:54 | <randallman> | Yeah |
| 17:54 | <Talman> | So, she has US Secrety Service and Department of State guarding her. |
| 17:54 | <Talman> | wonder what fresh coordination hell that is. |
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| 17:55 | <randallman> | two arms of the Secret service ? |
| 17:55 | <randallman> | at the same time? |
| 17:55 | <randallman> | Oh misread.... dept of state & secret service |
| 17:55 | <randallman> | Surely one must be subordinate |
| 17:55 | <Talman> | Yeah, DoS has their own protective service. |
| 17:56 | <Peng> | ...Why? |
| 17:56 | <Talman> | That's why Blackwater worked for on a lot of things. |
| 17:56 | <Talman> | And I'm not sure they would be. |
| 17:57 | <Talman> | Yeah, DSS is supposed to protect the Secretary of State. |
| 17:57 | <Guspaz> | I thought they put a time limit on protection for ex presidents. |
| 17:57 | <Guspaz> | Oh, bush was the first with the limit. |
| 17:58 | <Talman> | Yeah. |
| 17:58 | <Talman> | Clinton gets it for life. |
| 17:58 | <bob2> | have they declassified reagen's papers yet? |
| 17:58 | <Daevien> | even teh SS doesn't want to deal with him longe rthan they have to heh |
| 17:58 | <ericOC> | 10 years? |
| 17:58 | <Talman> | 30 years. |
| 17:58 | <ericOC> | pff, presidents will die before then |
| 17:58 | <Talman> | Daevien, they have to deal with his dad. :) |
| 17:58 | <Daevien> | Talman: least he wasn't a drooling moron |
| 17:59 | <Talman> | That was an act. :) |
| 17:59 | <Guspaz> | Canada doesn't have such a thing. For some reason, people don't try to kill the prime minister quite as often as the president. |
| 17:59 | <Daevien> | he's the best actor ever then |
| 17:59 | <Guspaz> | Then again, we also don't have term limits or fixed-length terms. |
| 17:59 | <Daevien> | Guspaz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawinigan_Handshake |
| 17:59 | <Daevien> | heh |
| 18:00 | <Guspaz> | See? The PM didn't need protection, he was busy protecting the RCMP officers. |
| 18:00 | <Daevien> | (explanation for non canadians: we had a prime minister go after a protester himself rather than let his security do it |
| 18:01 | <Talman> | WTF. :) |
| 18:01 | <Guspaz> | Yes, and apparently that protestor is now a candidate for Québec Solidaire. |
| 18:02 | <Daevien> | most embarassingly, the PM has bell's palsy too :p |
| 18:02 | <Talman> | Wait... Someone stood in front of the prime minister, so the prime minister choked him? |
| 18:03 | <Daevien> | it did lead to the hilarious line though that he was the first politian to not talk out of both sides of his mouth though |
| 18:03 | <Guspaz> | Chrétien didn't take shit from nobody. |
| 18:03 | <Daevien> | it was a protester that got up in his face, PM pushed him down and broke a tooth |
| 18:04 | <Daevien> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Billclennett.jpg |
| 18:04 | <Guspaz> | Canadian PMs seem to be a lot more badass than US presidents. |
| 18:04 | <Guspaz> | Trudeau especially comes to mind. |
| 18:05 | <Peng> | The US does have Buzz Aldrin, though. |
| 18:05 | <Guspaz> | But he was never president. |
| 18:05 | <Talman> | I met him. |
| 18:05 | <Guspaz> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_watch_me |
| 18:05 | <Talman> | He used to eat at my Grandmother's restraunt, |
| 18:05 | <Talman> | And yes, he's badass. |
| 18:06 | <bob2> | not /yet/, at least |
| 18:06 | <Guspaz> | But he's a bit old to be prez... |
| 18:06 | <Talman> | What did Trudeau do? Put down the seperatists? |
| 18:07 | <Peng> | Wikipedia says he's gonna be on Dancing with the Stars. If he can do that, he's not too old to be president. :D |
| 18:07 | <Guspaz> | Talman: An excerpt: |
| 18:07 | <Guspaz> | Trudeau: Yes, well there are a lot of bleeding hearts around who just don't like to see people with helmets and guns. All I can say is, go on and bleed, but it is more important to keep law and order in the society than to be worried about weak-kneed people who don't like the looks of ... |
| 18:07 | <Guspaz> | Ralfe (journalist): At any cost? How far would you go with that? How far would you extend that? |
| 18:07 | <Daevien> | peng: elect woz :p |
| 18:07 | <Guspaz> | Trudeau: Well, just watch me. |
| 18:07 | <Guspaz> | Three days later, trudeau declared martial law in Canada. |
| 18:07 | <Talman> | Didn't Buzz beat somebody down? |
| 18:08 | <Peng> | Talman: Yes. |
| 18:08 | <Peng> | Talman: He punched him in the face. |
| 18:08 | <Peng> | Talman: Some moon landing hoax guy. |
| 18:08 | <Guspaz> | Talman: This was in response to a domestic terrorist group. |
| 18:08 | <Talman> | Ah, yes. |
| 18:08 | <Talman> | I see. YOu guys had your own "teh Troubles," so he deployed military tropps. |
| 18:09 | <Talman> | troops |
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| 18:09 | <Talman> | >.> "... and the draft of a ransom note to be used in the kidnapping of the American consul." |
| 18:09 | <Daevien> | time to run away from work, see you guys later |
| 18:09 | <Talman> | Man, if they had taken the American consul hostage, we'd of probably invaded. :) |
| 18:10 | <Peng> | Talman: Nah. UAV bombing. |
| 18:10 | <Guspaz> | The FLQ, a terrorist group who blew up 95 bombs (including the Montreal Stock Exchange), kidnapped the Quebec Minister of Labour, and the British Trade Commissioner. |
| 18:11 | <Guspaz> | After the kidnappings, and in response to reports that the FLQ had a large amount of TNT, the war measures act was put into effect. |
| 18:11 | <Talman> | "WHAT WAS THAT?" |
| 18:11 | <Talman> | CIA: We ended your FLQ threat. |
| 18:11 | <Talman> | Voice of America: We urge the separatists to return the American consul to our border. YOu will not be harmed. Failure to comply will result in your total annihilation./ |
| 18:12 | <Guspaz> | Talman: Well, they killed the kidnapped Minister of Labour, so an invasion would probably have not gone well for the kidnap victim in the case of an invasion. |
| 18:12 | <Talman> | Thank you for involving the United States of America in your petty intra-country squabble. We will now liberate all of you. |
| 18:13 | <Talman> | Guspaz, we have a tendancy to blow things up when people piss us off. |
| 18:13 | <Peng> | Idea! Trade Quebec with the U.S. for Alaska! |
| 18:13 | <Peng> | That would be hilarious. |
| 18:13 | <MetaCosm> | what? who the hell wants Quebec |
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| 18:14 | <Guspaz> | what? who the hell wants to be part of the U.S. |
| 18:14 | <Talman> | We don't want them. |
| 18:14 | <Talman> | AMERICA, that's who. |
| 18:14 | <Guspaz> | And we don't want you ;) |
| 18:14 | <randallman> | heh |
| 18:14 | <Guspaz> | I *would* like to stay in Canada, however... |
| 18:14 | <Talman> | Yet all the liberals think they can move there. |
| 18:14 | <randallman> | BUILD A WALL |
| 18:14 | <Talman> | Amusingly, I actually looked at Canadian citizenship. |
| 18:14 | <@Perihelion> | \o/ |
| 18:14 | <MetaCosm> | seriously, Canada doesn't want Quebec... |
| 18:14 | <Talman> | I worked on a ship. A cruise ship. We had 2 french canadians. |
| 18:14 | <MetaCosm> | We could blow up Quebec, and Canada would give us a gift, maybe BC |
| 18:14 | <Talman> | One was annoying as fuck. |
| 18:15 | <Talman> | The other one was hot. |
| 18:15 | <Guspaz> | Dunno what I'd do if Quebec separated. I'd suddenly be living in a foreign country... that I was born in? Too strange. |
| 18:15 | <randallman> | heh |
| 18:15 | <randallman> | I had a buddy from france |
| 18:15 | <Guspaz> | Talman: So, they were male and female, then? ;) |
| 18:15 | <randallman> | he went to quebec |
| 18:15 | <Talman> | I once asked a Canadian if he was from quebec. He was like, "FUCK NO. FUCKING FRENCH CANADIANS." |
| 18:15 | <randallman> | and he couldnt understand the natives ;) |
| 18:15 | <Talman> | Yes, yes they were. |
| 18:15 | <Guspaz> | randallman: It's OK, we have trouble understanding the French. |
| 18:15 | <Talman> | And the girl, a singer who had a serious french accent, threw a beer at him. |
| 18:15 | <MetaCosm> | The French hate Quebec too. |
| 18:16 | <randallman> | Compare to england vs. US accents I suppose |
| 18:16 | <Talman> | Of course they do. |
| 18:16 | <Guspaz> | Quebec doesn't hate the French, but their accent is hard to understand if you are used to the Québecois accent. |
| 18:16 | <Talman> | Horrible, horrible times that night. It was great. SO much love for Quebec. |
| 18:16 | <Guspaz> | randallman: Yeah, same idea. |
| 18:16 | <Talman> | See also: fucking snowbirds. |
| 18:16 | <Talman> | God I hated them. |
| 18:16 | <Guspaz> | Quebec is to France as the US is to England. |
| 18:16 | <randallman> | Alrighty, wife is home |
| 18:16 | <randallman> | time to go make a presense. |
| 18:16 | <Talman> | Is she french canadian? |
| 18:16 | <Guspaz> | Bus is soon, ciao! |
| 18:16 | <MetaCosm> | Guspaz, only, shitty. |
| 18:16 | <HedgeMage> | Perihelion: trelane is my housemate. |
| 18:17 | <randallman> | Talman, heh no |
| 18:17 | <HedgeMage> | err, Peng ^^^ |
| 18:17 | <Talman> | heh |
| 18:17 | <randallman> | Philadelphian :) |
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| 18:17 | <@Perihelion> | o_O |
| 18:17 | <Peng> | HedgeMage: Oh, okay. |
| 18:17 | <HedgeMage> | sorry, Perihelion, my tab-complete is easily confused |
| 18:17 | <MetaCosm> | HedgeMage, beat it, it will learn. |
| 18:17 | <@Perihelion> | No worries :P |
| 18:17 | <Peng> | HedgeMage: Anyway! Good morning. :) |
| 18:17 | <MetaCosm> | (hint: works on people too) |
| 18:18 | <@Perihelion> | :D |
| 18:18 | <HedgeMage> | Hi there :) |
| 18:19 | <Talman> | Hit them with the stick till compliance is ensured. |
| 18:21 | <HedgeMage> | What is everyone up to tonight? |
| 18:23 | <@caker> | How do you keep a moran in suspense? |
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| 18:23 | <Peng> | Suspenders. |
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| 18:27 | <Talman> | Urban Dictionary tells me that moran is how morons spell moron. |
| 18:27 | <Talman> | That's some deep shit. |
| 18:27 | <Talman> | Also, people who say that moran is spelled moron are morans. |
| 18:28 | <Talman> | what the hell kind of circular moran thinking is this? |
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| 18:40 | <vsnine> | haha those silly morans |
| 18:40 | <vinic> | irony |
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| 18:46 | <pharaun> | wee >_> just ordered a second 1u case wee |
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| 18:57 | <HoopyCat> | you know what's weird? the cats damn well know the strange red glowing dot is associated with the clicky thing in my hand, but they STILL FALL FOR IT |
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| 19:01 | <SirSquidness> | haha. |
| 19:01 | <SirSquidness> | That's awesome, HoopyCat |
| 19:01 | <SirSquidness> | I envy you for having both a cat and a LASER pointer in the one place |
| 19:02 | <HoopyCat> | two cats and one laser pointer |
| 19:02 | <SirSquidness> | <envy> |
| 19:02 | <HoopyCat> | it's the next big shock video |
| 19:02 | <SirSquidness> | There is no other way |
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| 19:05 | <jcy`> | the next thing you should get is a roomba |
| 19:05 | <jcy`> | i have no idea why but i love watching cat on a roomba youtube videos |
| 19:05 | <HoopyCat> | jcy`: i've had a few; the cats avoid them like they avoid all vacuum cleaners |
| 19:06 | <jcy`> | sounds like you don't know how to train a cat |
| 19:06 | <HoopyCat> | i have not yet mounted a laser atop the roomba, but i've got one scheduled for delivery on monday |
| 19:06 | <HoopyCat> | jcy`: haha, "in soviet russia, you train cat!" ... that's funny |
| 19:06 | <jcy`> | a frickin roomba with frickin lasers on it |
| 19:07 | <pharaun> | <3 cats |
| 19:07 | <pharaun> | wish i could get an cat, its like $75 a month additional per cat |
| 19:07 | <jcy`> | i like other people's cats |
| 19:07 | <jcy`> | but i wouldn't want one of my own |
| 19:07 | <jcy`> | which is oddly enough the same policy i have for children |
| 19:07 | <HoopyCat> | i've got a deal goin' with the fat one... she starts whining at my wife around 1730, expecting dinner |
| 19:08 | <HedgeMage> | jcy`: That's okay. We prefer you don't breed anyway. |
| 19:08 | * | HedgeMage ducks |
| 19:08 | * | jcy` breeds all over urmom |
| 19:08 | <MetaCosm> | jcy`, cats aren't like dogs or children, when you are there, they might hang out or they might not, but when you are gone, just leave out food and water, they will come up with something |
| 19:08 | <jcy`> | see but i get the feeling that cats could care less if you live or die |
| 19:08 | <HedgeMage> | My housemate has a cat. I'm not a fan. |
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| 19:09 | <HoopyCat> | she saves me from having to whine at my wife, so i let her meow morosely at the bathtub spout while i'm using the bathroom |
| 19:09 | <pharaun> | hehe |
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| 19:09 | <jcy`> | i was fascinated by that guy who mounted a camera on his cat b/c he was curious about what it did all day |
| 19:10 | <HedgeMage> | Apparently there was a university study like that. The cats mostly looked out the window. |
| 19:10 | <jcy`> | it looked like the cat was trying to either a) find food or b) find confrontations |
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| 19:18 | <HoopyCat> | whoops, i gave my wife my old cellphone awhile back, and apparently forgot to change the ringtone |
| 19:18 | <jcy`> | is it a death metal ringtone |
| 19:18 | <mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 19:18 | <HoopyCat> | "IT'S A PIECE OF CAKE TO BAKE A PRETTY CAKE" "WHAT!" "IF THE WAY IS HAZY" "YEAH, YEAH" "YOU GOTTA DO THE COOKING BY THE BOOK--" "Hello?" |
| 19:22 | <HedgeMage> | brb |
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| 19:48 | <amitz> | how do I tell when my server lost power thus doing ungraceful shutdown? |
| 19:48 | <amitz> | linode unrelated |
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| 19:49 | <Peng> | Read your logs, I guess? |
| 19:50 | <Peng> | And see when things stopped. syslog (or something?) logs a marker every few minutes to help. |
| 19:50 | <megatron27> | syslog FTW |
| 19:50 | <Peng> | If you have graphs, they'll help too. |
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| 19:53 | <amitz> | syslog only told me when everything is restarted again :-( |
| 19:53 | <amitz> | ah yeah, the minutes marker I guess. |
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| 20:14 | <amitz> | random blanket question, is google evil? |
| 20:17 | <Peng> | urmom is evil |
| 20:18 | <amitz> | I'm pinkie |
| 20:18 | <ericOC> | google knows more about me than i do, i love it |
| 20:19 | <Peng> | ISTM Google carefully balances their good and evil acts so it all adds up to "somewhat good". |
| 20:19 | <ericOC> | android phone, gmail, calendar, contacts, google apps, buzz, finance, docs, latitude, reader, talk, voice :D |
| 20:19 | <ericOC> | use 'em all |
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| 20:20 | <ryzor> | in your opinion, what evil has Google done? |
| 20:20 | <amitz> | Peng: do they really do that since it may conflicts with the interest of shareholders? |
| 20:22 | <Peng> | What? |
| 20:23 | <amitz> | don't know. I know some internal of big companies. I've yet to see ethical company for a wide range value of ethic, and considering a bit of relativism of ethics. |
| 20:23 | <Bohemian_> | anybody here use selinux? |
| 20:23 | <amitz> | Peng: if you do good, you may cost shareholders money. |
| 20:24 | <megatron27> | amitz, well that's the challenge then, aligning the two |
| 20:24 | <amitz> | don't give me that crap about "good causes more revenue". It only holds to true for a really small set of good :-p |
| 20:25 | <megatron27> | amitz, bullshit |
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| 20:27 | <amitz> | well, the (un)bullshitness is always arguable given the many ways to argue about them. I guess I'm starting an useless talk :-p |
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| 20:33 | <pharaun> | ultimately aren't most companies more or less mainly "motivated" by profit |
| 20:34 | <pharaun> | afterall the *company* itself doesn't have a moral value, its the people who runs it who does, but past a certain size eh? |
| 20:35 | <amitz> | pharaun: second statement is what I thought. First statement, that's a qualified statement I must agree on :-p |
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| 20:37 | <pharaun> | yeah, i mean i can see a small company due to their "owners" having a strong moral value, but past a certain size, you end up with thousands of people pulling in different directions, thousands of different moral values and etc |
| 20:37 | <pharaun> | plus ultimately for most part aren't companies there to make *money* |
| 20:38 | <amitz> | like... IBM :-p. |
| 20:38 | <pharaun> | indeed |
| 20:38 | <pharaun> | i forgot the exact years, but IBM used to sell some "computering" equipment to the nazi party |
| 20:39 | <pharaun> | etc... |
| 20:39 | <ryzor> | pharaun: That was on the movie the Corporation |
| 20:39 | <pharaun> | never saw that movie |
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| 20:39 | <ryzor> | I believe that they sold them a punch card system to keep track of the Jewish people in the concentration camps. |
| 20:39 | <pharaun> | yeah something like that |
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| 20:41 | <amitz> | heh, I deal with similar ethical problem, but not that extreme. If an entity buy some stuff for you and you know they will misrepresent the stuff to another party, will you keep selling stuff to them? |
| 20:43 | <bwenaru> | WORLD |
| 20:44 | <pharaun> | heh |
| 20:44 | <pharaun> | i suppose the answer to that would depend on "factors" but eh |
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| 20:46 | <amitz> | suppose the misrepresentation can cost people's life? |
| 20:47 | <amitz> | suppose they're suppose to know how to make it not cost people's life? |
| 20:47 | <pharaun> | for *me* yes i would stop selling it |
| 20:47 | <pharaun> | but at same time, that's my knee jerk reaction |
| 20:48 | <pharaun> | if i was at a helm of a company that if i stop selling that product to this company, it would cause my company to go under, and lose say X thousands of jobs |
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| 21:00 | <amitz> | consider this true story that involves an international company. Suppose they change the specification of the product and properly label the change. But they only tell you about the good stuff about the new spec and denied any disadvantage of the product despite the well researched method of production. Wrongs spec may costs lives. on the other hand, costumers shouldn't rely on their true spec, they should rely to the international standard that product ... |
| 21:01 | <amitz> | ... has fulfilled, but the customers usually don't anyway. Is that evil? |
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| 21:03 | <amitz> | s/researched/studied new/ |
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| 21:07 | <amitz> | okay... that is... irrelevant. I'm venting out, sorry :-p |
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| 21:09 | <stefanie> | amitz: for the lulz-> http://bit.ly/brj63U |
| 21:10 | <stefanie> | http://bit.ly/1FbWYm <-the verse |
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| 21:13 | <chemosh> | Why the hell they cancel a show like The Sarah Connor Chronicles :( |
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| 21:14 | <hideair> | evening, anyone have any experience with piranha, lvs, or a combination thereof? |
| 21:14 | <SelfishMan> | hard to have a show named The Sarah Connor Chronicles when Sarah Connor can't be part of it anymore |
| 21:15 | <chemosh> | Oh, well i'm at the end of season 1 x). Just looked it up and saw it was cancelled |
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| 21:16 | <chemosh> | What do the Glau fans here watch now? |
| 21:17 | <amitz> | ah, the twin pervert sisters |
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| 21:19 | <amitz> | !summer |
| 21:19 | <linbot> | http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk |
| 21:19 | <amitz> | ^^ chemosh |
| 21:19 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 21:19 | <chemosh> | lol |
| 21:19 | <chemosh> | Yea thats actually why i'm watching show |
| 21:20 | <chemosh> | wondered what the big deal was that someone makes that x) |
| 21:21 | <chemosh> | ohwell, 25 more episodes to go |
| 21:22 | <chesty> | i thought it was hard to have a show called prison break when they broke out of prison in the first season |
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| 21:22 | <amitz> | but they go to jail again anyway. |
| 21:23 | <bwenaru> | WORLD |
| 21:23 | <chesty> | never watched it after the first season |
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| 21:23 | <amitz> | perhaps each season = new jail! wohooo! |
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| 21:24 | <chemosh> | so what else is a good show? |
| 21:25 | <straterra> | 24 |
| 21:25 | <amitz> | that's how I did urmom. |
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| 21:27 | <hideair> | got DC'd sorry if this question already went through but: |
| 21:27 | <hideair> | Anyone have any experience with piranha/lvs/ipvs that wouldn't mind sparing a few minutes, ple |
| 21:27 | <chemosh> | meh, isn't 24 at season 9 or something |
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| 21:32 | <bob2> | chemosh: dollhouse |
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| 21:33 | <straterra> | So..I found out what heaven is like |
| 21:35 | <chemosh> | wonderful, thanks bob2 |
| 21:35 | <bob2> | but only 5 episodes in a loop, I guess |
| 21:36 | <chemosh> | ah darn |
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| 21:36 | <bob2> | for summer glau |
| 21:36 | <bob2> | the rest of the episodes are pretty good, though |
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| 21:49 | <chemosh> | :) |
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| 21:57 | <amitz> | SpaceHobo on a stick... |
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| 22:01 | <david6> | Hello, does anyone know if Linode supports ACL? My build is (Latest 2.6 Stable (2.6.18.8-linode22)) |
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| 22:02 | <bob2> | try and see |
| 22:02 | <david6> | I followed the instructions here: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/acl.htm But after I rebooted and my filesystem is read-only. |
| 22:03 | <bob2> | 2.6.32 does, at least |
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| 22:07 | <happy> | if one only wished to send e-mails ( for say a web app's user registration) would one use postfix or exim4 if one was just starting out and learning the ropes? |
| 22:07 | <bob2> | depends |
| 22:07 | <happy> | i've been reading the exim4 manual |
| 22:08 | <bob2> | you could just let google apps do it |
| 22:08 | <bob2> | ( + ssmtp on your linode) |
| 22:08 | <happy> | google apps is a good idea |
| 22:08 | <bob2> | if you don't want to do that, and you're on debian or ubuntu, postfix is really really easy to get going |
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| 22:08 | <bob2> | (for sending mail) |
| 22:08 | <happy> | i just thought i would get my feet wet |
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| 22:09 | <happy> | maybe i will use postfix, i have only been studying exim4 =P |
| 22:09 | <HoopyCat> | the linode library has a few tutorials on how to setuppify send-only mail servers |
| 22:10 | <HoopyCat> | it's a coin toss between exim and postfix |
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| 22:11 | <happy> | yea i read the linode library, been reading exim4 docs |
| 22:12 | <royale> | Hi everybody, I heard Linode servers in the Fremont datacenter have a good connectivy to Facebook, could anyone confirm by pinging api.facebook.com? Thanks! |
| 22:13 | <happy> | not on fremont i think |
| 22:13 | <royale> | Ok, I am not a customer yet. Is it easy to choose on which datacenter you want to be? |
| 22:13 | <amitz> | royale: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.664/1.730/1.812/0.081 ms |
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| 22:13 | <david6> | I tried 2.6.32 but my filesystem is still read-only after installing ACL and remounting the hard drive. Any ideas? |
| 22:13 | <royale> | amitz: great, thanks :) |
| 22:14 | <HoopyCat> | Cannot find the LabVIEW instrument "LVInstrIF821/ELVIS_ELVISScope". The following instrument(s) will not work properly:XLV1 |
| 22:14 | * | HoopyCat grabs the flask |
| 22:14 | <amitz> | sekrit experiment to clone elvis |
| 22:14 | <HoopyCat> | !mtr-fremont api.facebook.com |
| 22:14 | <linbot> | HoopyCat: [mtr] api.facebook.com: 7 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 2.0ms (urmom) |
| 22:15 | <HoopyCat> | !mtr-newark hoopycat.com |
| 22:15 | <linbot> | HoopyCat: [mtr] hoopycat.com: 2 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 4.4ms |
| 22:15 | <HoopyCat> | royale: it's pretty darned close, i'd say |
| 22:16 | <amitz> | that's more than 100% longer. |
| 22:16 | * | amitz returns to lurking |
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| 22:16 | <amitz> | and wait for troll opportunities. |
| 22:16 | <royale> | Fremont datacenter looks sweet for my needs. So is it easy to choose your datacenter? |
| 22:17 | <HoopyCat> | david6: looks like the kernel support is there (zgrep _ACL /proc/config.gz). anything interesting on dmesg? |
| 22:17 | <Flue> | Royale: A simple pop up will let you tick a selection box to choose your datacenter |
| 22:17 | <HoopyCat> | royale: it's so easy you have to choose your datacenter as the second step of deploying a linode :-) |
| 22:18 | <royale> | Ok thanks :) |
| 22:18 | * | royale should be a new customer soon then ;) |
| 22:18 | <Flue> | Royale: This will happen when first logging into your linode, after which, you can still change locations by raising a support ticket (Although, at this point, it is subject to availability). |
| 22:19 | <royale> | Thanks guys for your help. Should go to bed now, it's late in France ;) |
| 22:19 | <Flue> | nite |
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| 22:20 | <jtsage> | http://netjack.sourceforge.net/ well. that's just *useful*. /me goes back to work |
| 22:21 | <HoopyCat> | i think it's the second step |
| 22:21 | * | amitz lacks the knowledge to appreciate it. /me backs to lurking. |
| 22:21 | <HoopyCat> | might be the third... |
| 22:21 | <hideair> | Anyone have any experience with piranha/lvs/ipvs that wouldn't mind sparing a few minutes, please? |
| 22:21 | <amitz> | !ask hideair |
| 22:21 | <linbot> | If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for topic experts. Don't ask to ask. Don't PM! Don't ask if people are awake, or in the mood to help. Just ask the question straight out. |
| 22:21 | <hideair> | that was my question |
| 22:22 | <Flue> | Anyone know any nice network programming tutorials for java, would like to start writing client/server programs to test but can't find any good tutorials. |
| 22:22 | <hideair> | i didn't ask to ask it, i asked if anyone had experience that could spend a few minutes as I have more than a single question |
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| 22:22 | <j-node> | The general rule is just ask. |
| 22:22 | <Flue> | hideair: that was linbot responding? I'm assuming it responds to keywords in a pm xD |
| 22:23 | <hideair> | ya it was responding because someone typed !ask hideair |
| 22:23 | <david6> | Yes, dmesg helped. My /ect/fstab file is wrong. How can I edit it when the filesystem is read-only? |
| 22:23 | <hideair> | so I was responding to the person who did so |
| 22:23 | <jtsage> | amitz- at a glance - realtime, synced audio over a network. and from what i'm reading, it's dead simple to set up. :) |
| 22:24 | <amitz> | hideair: you just wasted a few minutes of your life ;-). I was just trying to help... |
| 22:24 | <HoopyCat> | david6: you can try to remount it rw (mount -o remount,rw)... if it won't come back to you, finnix |
| 22:25 | <amitz> | jtsage: I dont know that you need a synched clock for maximum performance. That's new to me :-) |
| 22:26 | <HoopyCat> | amitz: consider you have two stereos in two rooms and you want to have the same music in both places, but you don't want people in the hallway between the two rooms having acid flashbacks due to desynched audio |
| 22:26 | <amitz> | I mean, cant you just delay and buffer things? |
| 22:26 | <amitz> | HoopyCat: aaah! |
| 22:26 | <jtsage> | amitz- for a single source -> single client, you don't - not really - there might be some lag, but not enough to matter much. multiple clients however.... (and before you ask, no i don't have a use for this yet - but by god, i'm gonna find one :) ) |
| 22:27 | * | amitz hands jtsage a geek medal. |
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| 22:29 | <jtsage> | heh. i can actually thinking of a few real world theater uses for this. :) |
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| 22:30 | <HoopyCat> | jtsage: i'm thinking of ways to futz with it to create particular effects :-) |
| 22:31 | <jtsage> | i have to say, i am new to the whole jack framework - stumbled into it forcably when i installed the ubuntu-studio packages. it's very slick. although making pulseaudio play nice was kinda ugly |
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| 22:36 | <HoopyCat> | jtsage: i'd never heard of it until 16 minutes ago :-) |
| 22:36 | <jtsage> | heh |
| 22:36 | <jtsage> | so i have you by nearly 24hrs :) |
| 22:37 | <HoopyCat> | you're an expert! |
| 22:37 | <jtsage> | hehe |
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| 22:40 | <david6> | HoopyCat: following a tread with a similar problem - http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-144176.html I ended up having to use the command: "sudo mount -n -o remount -t ext3 /dev/xvda-old /" and then I could change the fstab. |
| 22:41 | <david6> | Thanks. |
| 22:42 | <HoopyCat> | david6: cool! is the acl stuff working out, or too early to tell? |
| 22:44 | <david6> | HoopyCat: I'm not sure yet. I'm not sure I have installed it correctly. |
| 22:45 | <jtsage> | HoopyCat- also, shit like this is kinda fun. you can chain it up to any input source you like, quite easily. for instance, the movie i'm watching has *excellent* stereo seperation for the music http://plugin.org.uk/meterbridge/ |
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| 22:46 | <HoopyCat> | david6: remember: if it were meant to be easy, there wouldn't be a howto :-) |
| 22:46 | <happy> | if i am setting RDNS because i want to run a send-only exim4 MTA, should i set RDNS to mydomain.com or mail.mydomain.com or can i just leave the default value like foo.members.linode.com? |
| 22:46 | <Talman> | Please for the love of god. |
| 22:46 | <Talman> | "Well, wouldn't a new processor come with the (laptop) motherboard?" |
| 22:46 | <Talman> | Core 2 Duo proc. |
| 22:46 | <HoopyCat> | jtsage: i need more CPU one of these days... |
| 22:47 | <david6> | HoopyCat: wait, there is a howto? :) |
| 22:47 | <jtsage> | oh wow - would ya look at that (/me glances at the cpu graph screenlet.) yikes. |
| 22:48 | <HoopyCat> | happy: it's probably not a bad idea to set it to something relating to your domain. it doesn't make a huge difference (aye, yahoo and hotmail will still bitbucket your mail), but it makes mail server administrators freak out less :-) |
| 22:49 | <HoopyCat> | happy: (this may be a good time to consider a proper hostname for your server) |
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| 22:49 | <happy> | thx hoopyCat |
| 22:50 | <HoopyCat> | david6: ok, good point :-) |
| 22:50 | <happy> | but what if i want to have multiple domains for mutiple web sites that will send emails? should i pick one domain name and use it as my hostname? |
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| 22:54 | <HoopyCat> | happy: generally, yeah. i usually put hosts under the "corporate" domain, e.g. framboise.hoopycat.com |
| 22:56 | <happy> | thx HoopyCat |
| 22:58 | <blognewb> | tor is awesome |
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| 23:03 | <Talman> | Every time one of you people use TOR, the terrorists win. |
| 23:03 | <pharaun> | amitz: aha, let me see hehe its np, heh that's kind of screwed up |
| 23:04 | <pharaun> | amitz: just now read your statement earlier about "evil" |
| 23:05 | <HoopyCat> | tor blimey |
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| 23:07 | <jtsage> | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1257423/Sweet-toothed-toddler-climbs-INSIDE-lolly-machine-guzzle-sweets--gets-trapped-inside.html |
| 23:08 | <chesty> | my dog used to do that, dig under the neighbours fence, eat all their dog food then get so fat he couldn't get back through the hole |
| 23:09 | <jtsage> | heh. awesome. |
| 23:10 | <stefanie> | There was another were a little girl got her hand stuck in a coke machine opening. Her mom was in line at a theater, and (obviously) not watching her kid. Mom later complained that the theater couldn't get a hold of the coke matinence folks. |
| 23:10 | <HoopyCat> | what, she didn't have $1.75? |
| 23:10 | <stefanie> | kid was like three |
| 23:11 | <@Perihelion> | Owned. |
| 23:11 | <amitz> | stefanie: while holding the coke? :-p |
| 23:11 | <stefanie> | They didn't mention |
| 23:11 | <@Perihelion> | I'd have left it. Coke addictions will not be tolerated in my house. |
| 23:11 | * | Perihelion keeps her pimp hand strong |
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| 23:11 | <amitz> | pharaun: I'm quite dirty ethically. Need a cleaner job :-) |
| 23:12 | * | jtsage helped cut a 3yr old out of a wood high chair at a taco bell once. yeah, little chubs fit *in* it.... |
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| 23:12 | -!- | Guest736 is now known as somerandomguy |
| 23:12 | <somerandomguy> | hey |
| 23:12 | <somerandomguy> | what are your nameservers |
| 23:12 | <somerandomguy> | i just bought a linode |
| 23:12 | <jtsage> | ns1-5.linode.com |
| 23:12 | <somerandomguy> | changing dns |
| 23:12 | <somerandomguy> | ty |
| 23:12 | <jtsage> | 1-5 being a range, not a single name |
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| 23:13 | <pharaun> | amitz: heh |
| 23:13 | <HoopyCat> | jtsage: that's for $REGISTRAR's support department to lolz at |
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| 23:14 | <stefanie> | http://kuvaton.com/browse/13976/god_comic.jpg |
| 23:14 | <amitz> | woah, I just realized I just experienced the same thing a few minutes ago. Someone manage to squeeze non-flexible items into an opening. |
| 23:15 | <amitz> | managed |
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| 23:15 | <amitz> | We give up retrieving them. We cut the container. |
| 23:15 | <hakr_> | meh |
| 23:15 | <hakr_> | can someone do a sendpass on 'hakr' please |
| 23:15 | <jtsage> | better than cutting the 'item' |
| 23:15 | <hakr_> | i'd appreciate it |
| 23:16 | <amitz> | jtsage: yeah. But it still puzzles me how the hell did someone manage to squeeze it in... |
| 23:16 | * | jtsage snickers. |
| 23:17 | <jtsage> | can i get a 'that's what she said'? |
| 23:17 | <HoopyCat> | hakr_: https://www.linode.com/support/forgot.cfm |
| 23:17 | <stefanie> | !twss |
| 23:17 | <linbot> | THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! |
| 23:17 | <amitz> | heh :-) |
| 23:17 | <jtsage> | heh. didn't know there was a trigger for that |
| 23:17 | <megatron27> | night shift! |
| 23:19 | <amitz> | someone just told me he knows how... heh. |
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| 23:19 | <amitz> | Okay, I'm a moron. |
| 23:21 | <megatron27> | don't say that |
| 23:21 | <david6> | HoopyCat: The ACL is working now. I had to get the permissions right is all. Do you know where I can find the boot config? I would like to if CONFIG_EXT3_FS_POSIX_ACL=y is set |
| 23:22 | <amitz> | I was a moron? ;-) |
| 23:23 | <HoopyCat> | david6: zgrep POSIX_ACL /proc/config.gz |
| 23:24 | <HoopyCat> | hmmm |
| 23:24 | <HoopyCat> | !urmom posix |
| 23:24 | <linbot> | HoopyCat: Yo momma's so clumsy, she tore her POSIX ACL! (750:5/2) [mrmuo] |
| 23:24 | <david6> | Thanks! |
| 23:24 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 23:24 | <david6> | lol |
| 23:25 | <HoopyCat> | !vote up 750 |
| 23:25 | <HoopyCat> | !urmom vote up 750 |
| 23:25 | <linbot> | HoopyCat: Voted up 750 [murmo] |
| 23:25 | <HoopyCat> | sleeptime; g'nite folx! |
| 23:25 | <megatron27> | I added the linode admin to leechblock in order to curb my CPU and IO graph fetish |
| 23:25 | <megatron27> | now I need to uninstall system-monitor |
| 23:28 | <SelfishMan> | megatron27: you know there is a way to slurp those images automagically, right? |
| 23:31 | <bwenaru> | somebody is killing world record holders, one at a time. |
| 23:31 | <bwenaru> | i think we have a serial killer on our hands. |
| 23:32 | * | SelfishMan blinks |
| 23:32 | <jtsage> | bwenaru- worlds oldest human again? |
| 23:33 | <SelfishMan> | amitz: itym "moran" |
| 23:34 | <bwenaru> | jtsage, indeed. |
| 23:34 | <bwenaru> | jtsage, turns out it had something to do with a time capsule. |
| 23:34 | <amitz> | moran it is. |
| 23:35 | <megatron27> | Josie Moran |
| 23:36 | <megatron27> | Maran* |
| 23:36 | <amitz> | I like what I see. |
| 23:36 | <amitz> | megatron27: don't underestimate google ;-) |
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| 23:36 | <jtsage> | bwenaru- time capsule? |
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| 23:44 | <keyvan> | ETA for dallas224? |
| 23:45 | <megatron27> | she doesn't model any more. |
| 23:48 | <megatron27> | urghhhhhh @ reddit being on Cassandra |
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| 23:51 | <megatron27> | tired |
| 23:51 | <Nipsting> | hello, anyone familiar with setting up Mysql, Postfix and Dovecot. Getting an error here I cant really figure out |
| 23:51 | <megatron27> | I need a program that can summarize my facebook feed into one SMS |
| 23:52 | <Nipsting> | relay=dovecot, delay=0.05, delays=0.04/0.01/0/0.01, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (temporary failure) is what I get in my /var/log/mail.log |
| 23:53 | <bob2> | needs more logz |
| 23:54 | <Nipsting> | I can paste the rest of it in a private message if you would like, 4 lines, dont wanna spam with it here |
| 23:54 | <jtsage> | !pb |
| 23:54 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 23:54 | <jtsage> | then we can all see |
| 23:54 | <hakr_> | word |
| 23:54 | <Nipsting> | cheers for that |
| 23:55 | <amitz> | megatron27: summary = narcisstic walls and comments. |
| 23:55 | <Nipsting> | http://p.linode.com/3610 |
| 23:56 | <amitz> | enclosed that sentence with quotes. |
| 23:57 | <Nipsting> | jtsage that make any sense to you ? |
| 23:57 | <hakr_> | where do i get a sendpass authcode? |
| 23:57 | <hakr_> | for my nick? |
| 23:57 | <jtsage> | sadly not. seems to be leaving out just why it felt the need to defer. if that's all there is for the log, telling postfix to be a bit more verbose may help |
| 23:57 | <@caker> | hakr_: /msg nickserv help |
| 23:58 | <hakr_> | tried that |
| 23:58 | <Nipsting> | no idea how to do that |
| 23:58 | <Nipsting> | the verbosity level that is |
| 23:58 | <hakr_> | told me i need an authcode to retrieve my pass via email |
| 23:58 | <@caker> | hakr_: /join #oftc .. ask there |
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| 23:59 | <jtsage> | Nipsting- http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html this has a few different ways of doing it. I tend to just use the -v option - just remember to turn it back off. it makes for very large logs |
| --- | Log | closed Sat Mar 13 00:00:04 2010 |
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