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| 00:10 | <encode> | # Transfer/Mo 600 GB |
| 00:10 | <encode> | # Incoming: 193 KB |
| 00:10 | <encode> | # Outgoing: 1.67 MB |
| 00:10 | <encode> | # Total: 1.86 MB |
| 00:10 | <encode> | hehe |
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| 00:20 | <mdcollins_> | :-0 |
| 00:20 | <mdcollins_> | I forgot to update my billing address.. |
| 00:20 | <Kyhwana> | oh balls! I need to do that too x.x |
| 00:21 | <Kyhwana> | balls! |
| 00:21 | <cmayo> | lo |
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| 00:27 | <amitz> | local loop... probably |
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| 00:35 | <rlankfo> | got to use my referral code today |
| 00:35 | <rlankfo> | schwwwwwwing |
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| 00:41 | <amitz> | I shoudln't have paid for 1 year in advance. I miss the monthly excitement now -_- |
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| 02:10 | <Marius> | amitz: I just get to see the billing thing and then it lists and it goes on and on and on and on forever xD |
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| 02:33 | * | amitz is peeking into the world of recruitment. Looks interesting :-p |
| 02:36 | <Marius> | orly? |
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| 02:39 | <amitz> | yes, it's one career path where my generalist tendency can be leveraged more. |
| 02:40 | <Rob> | by world of recruitment you mean those recruitment agencies and agents etc? :) |
| 02:41 | <amitz> | Rob: indeed. Yes, I know, they tend to be... many things. But I believe I can be ...different? -_- |
| 02:41 | <Rob> | you can lie with a stright face to people you are sending to jobs completely different to what they want? :) |
| 02:42 | <Rob> | have fun |
| 02:42 | <Rob> | oops |
| 02:42 | <amitz> | Rob: I will be different, hopefully :-p |
| 02:42 | <Rob> | \o/ |
| 02:44 | <Marius> | amitz: you'll lie to their backs? |
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| 02:47 | <amitz> | Marius: no, I will make them believe my lie. |
| 02:47 | <amitz> | I meant, I will make them believe me :-p |
| 02:49 | <Marius> | haha |
| 02:51 | <Rob> | sersiouly, most of the folks here get agents calling them at least once a day asking if they would be interested in this exciting new job - and its always something shit |
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| 02:54 | <amitz> | Rob: so I heard, about the shittyness of agents |
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| 02:55 | <Rob> | indeed - good luck being different tho, assuming you manage to be good at it, contractors etc will love you |
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| 02:55 | <Rob> | coz you wont bother them with pointless crap, but will when its genuinaly good |
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| 04:40 | <Barbar1an> | ello |
| 04:41 | <Marius> | Good day to you, fine sir. |
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| 04:44 | <amitz> | perhaps Barbar1an is not a sir? |
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| 04:45 | <Barbar1an> | hehe i am |
| 04:45 | <amitz> | Marius: i thought you have learned your lesson?! |
| 04:45 | <Barbar1an> | slow reply |
| 04:45 | * | Barbar1an was deploying his linode ;) |
| 04:46 | <Marius> | amitz: if it was a she, shouldn't it be Amazon1an ? |
| 04:46 | <Marius> | ;P |
| 04:46 | <Barbar1an> | hehe |
| 04:46 | <amitz> | Barbar1an: yeah, slow reply on my side too -_- |
| 04:46 | <Marius> | don't worry about amitz, he's a weee bit slow ;P |
| 04:47 | <Marius> | hmm |
| 04:47 | <Marius> | should I look into getting 4x4GB ddr3 for my laptop? |
| 04:47 | <Marius> | you know...because I can xD |
| 04:47 | <Marius> | I have 2x2GB atm |
| 04:48 | <amitz> | Marius: i used to lead someone to believe i'm a woman. he was truly broken. so i no longer play around like that ;-) |
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| 04:48 | <Marius> | amitz: make up your mind damn you! :P |
| 04:51 | <amitz> | seriously and philosophically speaking, what's a sex anyway, in comparison to gender. |
| 04:51 | <Marius> | it determines if your excess meat hangs and dangles or wraps up inside |
| 04:52 | <Barbar1an> | li154-82:~# |
| 04:52 | <Barbar1an> | damn thats fast |
| 04:52 | <Marius> | so is urmom |
| 04:52 | * | Barbar1an likes |
| 04:54 | <amitz> | i'd love to continue showing the error of your black and white approach but the topic is probably not palatable here -_- |
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| 05:00 | <Marius> | amitz: wat? |
| 05:00 | <Marius> | It's too early for cryptic stuff |
| 05:00 | <Marius> | I'm sleepy |
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| 05:04 | <amitz> | yeah, i' a bit looking for trouble mood today -_- |
| 05:05 | <Marius> | Oh you naughty naughty person you! |
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| 05:22 | <amitz> | just received some calls that change my mood to the worse. |
| 05:23 | <Marius> | oshit |
| 05:23 | <Marius> | Negative replies? |
| 05:23 | <Kyhwana> | amitz: wheres your v6? |
| 05:25 | <amitz> | oh noes, more about how i shouldn't quit my job -_-. life can be asy with my old job. |
| 05:25 | <amitz> | Kyhwana: i'll move to v6 when everybody move ;-) |
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| 05:26 | <Kyhwana> | .. |
| 05:27 | <Marius> | Lucnh it seems |
| 05:28 | <amitz> | Kyhwana: i don't know if somrone did mention it to you but your migration to ipv6 was full of intermittent connection :-P |
| 05:29 | <Kyhwana> | when? :P |
| 05:30 | * | Barbar1an is off |
| 05:30 | <Barbar1an> | laterz |
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| 05:31 | <amitz> | when you keep reconnexting to channel #linode so often that you were in at least 1 person ignore list :-P |
| 05:31 | <amitz> | later |
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| 05:31 | <amitz> | on ipv6 |
| 05:32 | <amitz> | kept |
| 05:33 | <Kyhwana> | hmm |
| 05:34 | <Kyhwana> | oh |
| 05:34 | <Kyhwana> | im using v6 right now :P |
| 05:34 | <amitz> | Kyhwana: say a year ago? |
| 05:34 | <Kyhwana> | hmm |
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| 05:35 | <Friction> | linode should do those large cloud servers |
| 05:35 | <amitz> | i forget the exact reconnecting message. but the oldies should remember you ;-) |
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| 05:38 | <Barbar1an> | ok im back ;p |
| 05:38 | <Barbar1an> | does anyone know if you can clone a inode to another datacenter? |
| 05:39 | <Barbar1an> | linode i mean |
| 05:41 | <amitz> | !library clone |
| 05:41 | <linbot> | amitz: 1. Cloning a Linode (http://bitl.in/e4v) - 2. Managing Linode Disk Images (http://bitl.in/s2ra) - 3. Git Source Control Management (http://bitl.in/7swiey) |
| 05:44 | <Barbar1an> | convenient |
| 05:44 | <Barbar1an> | tx |
| 05:49 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 05:49 | <linbot> | SpaceHobo: http://library.linode.com/ |
| 05:49 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 05:49 | <linbot> | SpaceHobo: http://library.linode.com/ |
| 05:49 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 05:49 | <linbot> | http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk |
| 05:49 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 05:49 | <linbot> | http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/06/03/us/jp-NUKE.html |
| 05:52 | <Marius> | So does /me |
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| 05:59 | <amitz> | beastiality! |
| 06:00 | <Marius> | sssssh, be nice to the glau |
| 06:02 | <amitz> | it's suppose to be a funny reference to chu, but i fail. |
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| 06:06 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Migrate a cPanel site to a linode in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5971>; |
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| 06:45 | <Marius> | Perihelion! |
| 06:45 | <Marius> | Wake up damn you! |
| 06:45 | <Marius> | I HAVE PROOF THAT USA IS GAY NOW! |
| 06:45 | <Marius> | http://kuvaton.com/browse/15562 |
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| 06:52 | <sirpengi> | i've suspected all along |
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| 06:58 | <Marius> | Indeed |
| 06:59 | <amitz> | i never knew... |
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| 07:22 | <none> | wow busier than i thought it might be |
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| 07:23 | * | amitz busy busy busy busy |
| 07:23 | * | Marius dittos |
| 07:24 | <bibble> | well okay lots of people != busy |
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| 07:33 | <A-KO> | it's 7:30 AM in the US |
| 07:33 | <A-KO> | 4:30AM in California |
| 07:33 | <A-KO> | it's kinda early :P |
| 07:34 | <Marius> | And ? |
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| 07:36 | <rcoup> | evening all :) Is it straightforward to move a VPS from one account to another, or is it better to setup a new account from the start? (setting up a VPS to transfer to client later...) |
| 07:36 | <rcoup> | i have an existing linode account I use for my stuff |
| 07:38 | <Marius> | It's pretty straightforward, you open a ticket and request it and add ap retty please =) |
| 07:39 | <rcoup> | sweet. I'll set it up under my account then :) |
| 07:39 | <rcoup> | i can do pretty-pleases! thanks. |
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| 07:40 | <rcoup> | done :D /me loves the cloud |
| 07:44 | * | A-KO still hasn't definitively seen a definition of cloud computing yet :P |
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| 07:46 | <bjorne> | is it bad to use the same ssh key on every computer I use? |
| 07:48 | <bjorne> | it's kind of boring to generate a new key and add a new entry to authorized_keys for every new computer |
| 07:49 | <A-KO> | bjorne: I've always been under the impression that SSH keys should identify the user, not the device--that said, you run into the problem that if you lose one of those devices, you also need to regenerate your SSH key |
| 07:49 | <A-KO> | if you have a separate key per device, you can simply go in and comment that device's key out from authorized_keys and not have to change anything else |
| 07:50 | <bjorne> | yeah, that's true |
| 07:50 | <bjorne> | what about if i have a strong passphrase? |
| 07:51 | <bjorne> | maybe it's a good idea to stop using a stolen key anyway.. |
| 07:51 | <A-KO> | on the key itself? Sure, that's the preferred method |
| 07:51 | <bjorne> | yes |
| 07:51 | <A-KO> | but passphrases can be broken if someone really wanted to.... |
| 07:51 | <bjorne> | ok |
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| 07:52 | <bjorne> | thx for your answer |
| 07:52 | <bjorne> | i will consider :) |
| 07:52 | <A-KO> | I'm not quite sure what the going requirement for a password is these days to be reasonably secure |
| 07:52 | <A-KO> | but with GPU hashing, I would say it got significantly higher.... |
| 07:53 | <A-KO> | and I'm pretty sure short of like a 30-40 key passphrase with a mix of characters, you'll be breakable by someone who really wants to.... |
| 07:53 | <bjorne> | alright |
| 07:53 | <bjorne> | better not trust that, then |
| 07:54 | <amitz> | or just slow down the rate of your password acceptor |
| 07:55 | <amitz> | combined with auto ip ban to prevent dos |
| 07:55 | <amitz> | i meant, fail2ban |
| 07:56 | <bjorne> | i think i'll go for key-per-machine, anyway |
| 07:58 | <A-KO> | yeah I just use keys and change the openssh port |
| 07:58 | <A-KO> | good luck... |
| 07:58 | <bjorne> | it'thx |
| 07:58 | <bjorne> | *thx |
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| 08:01 | <bjorne> | just found ssh-copy-id, seems to make it all easier |
| 08:01 | <HoopyCat> | also, if you find yourself doing the local machine -> remote machine 1 -> remote machine 2 thing, don't create a key for yourself on remote machine 1; look into ssh -A :-) |
| 08:02 | <A-KO> | hmm |
| 08:02 | <HoopyCat> | A-KO: http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/cloud-computing/cloud-def-v15.doc |
| 08:02 | <A-KO> | speaking of passphrases on ssl keys....I don't even know how they work......is it just an sha1 hash? |
| 08:02 | <bjorne> | HoopyCat: yeah, i tend to forget about that also, thx :) |
| 08:02 | <HoopyCat> | afk, master garden alarm |
| 08:03 | <A-KO> | shower time for me |
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| 08:03 | <A-KO> | sigh, I worked for 13 hours yesterday...... |
| 08:03 | <A-KO> | taking my time this morning |
| 08:03 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 08:03 | <A-KO> | lol |
| 08:06 | <amitz> | oh, my shower time is next week. |
| 08:06 | <Marius> | awesome |
| 08:07 | <Marius> | I'm looking forward to it ;) |
| 08:07 | <amitz> | i am, i like to go green. |
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| 08:09 | <HoopyCat> | if it's yellow, let it mellow; if it's brown, wash it down |
| 08:10 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 08:22 | <HoopyCat> | don't turn around, woah-oah-oah; der cakerssar's in town, woah-oah-oah. you're in his eye, and you'll know why; the more you swap, the faster you will die |
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| 08:26 | * | amitz peeks in, *shudder*, and returns to reading codinghorror. |
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| 08:26 | <praetorian> | i didnt see that he made a new post |
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| 08:28 | <amitz> | praetorian: he probably didn't but I just encountered him (as a whole), reading to the past. |
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| 08:28 | <praetorian> | ahh k |
| 08:30 | <Marius> | amitz: in my yougner days, I probably wrote stuff that would make codinghorror seem liek a childrens playbook |
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| 08:39 | <Marius> | hmm |
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| 08:40 | <Marius> | What are the ICANN rules, you NEED to purchase a domain throug han ICANN accredited registrar? |
| 08:40 | <Marius> | because I noticed ASNic lets whoever go in and register on their site, does this mean they are not affiliated with ICANN and it is fine for me to register my own domain individually there? |
| 08:40 | <amitz> | or someone who uses ICANN accredited registrar. |
| 08:40 | <amitz> | oh, nm |
| 08:41 | <Marius> | I read the policy at nic.as, and it pretty much says you as an individual can buy the domain as well, so I'm confused |
| 08:41 | <Marius> | I always thought everything had to be through an ICANN accreditar |
| 08:42 | <amitz> | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/02/the-years-of-experience-myth.html <- is interesting, never really assess a company that way (concerning ). |
| 08:46 | <Marius> | That's a good read |
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| 08:56 | <hobot> | yeah |
| 08:56 | <hobot> | codinghorror is usually a good read |
| 08:56 | <hobot> | I have it in my rss reader |
| 08:57 | <hobot> | also dailywtf is pretty good if you want to look at terrible coding |
| 08:58 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 08:58 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 08:58 | <hobot> | yeah thats true |
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| 08:59 | <hobot> | I read it back when it was the dailywhatthefuck |
| 08:59 | <hobot> | because I am cool and original like that |
| 08:59 | <Marius> | haha |
| 08:59 | <Marius> | yeah, I remember reading it years ago |
| 08:59 | <deejoe> | back when it was still punk |
| 08:59 | <hobot> | yep |
| 08:59 | <hobot> | you got it |
| 09:02 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 09:04 | <Marius> | What's that ? |
| 09:04 | <hobot> | today I found an interesting meeting of religion and business http://www.lasermonks.com/ |
| 09:04 | <Marius> | renewing $190 in domains? |
| 09:04 | <Marius> | Why yes, yes I am xD |
| 09:04 | <hobot> | thats a lotta domains |
| 09:04 | <Marius> | that's about 1/10 of the domians one of our clients has |
| 09:04 | <hobot> | noice |
| 09:05 | <hobot> | what do you need 200 domain names for |
| 09:05 | <hobot> | I guess that's private |
| 09:05 | <Marius> | only 145 domains |
| 09:05 | <hobot> | oh |
| 09:05 | <Marius> | removed a bunch last month :P |
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| 09:06 | <hobot> | that's still a lotta domains |
| 09:06 | <Marius> | yeah |
| 09:07 | <Marius> | also, lasermonks, haha, awesome! |
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| 09:08 | <Marius> | So they sell ink and toners for printers, gregorian chant cd's, candy and cakes and dog biscuits... |
| 09:08 | <Marius> | strange product lineup, haha |
| 09:08 | <JshWright> | Atwood's latest post is absolutley horrific... |
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| 09:10 | <JshWright> | the second most recent one if pretty awful too |
| 09:10 | <JshWright> | I think he's run out of stuff to write about |
| 09:10 | <Marius> | I wonder wh ywe haven't just signed up with ICANN yet...we sure handle enough domains to be credible for it |
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| 09:11 | <hobot> | yeah I just like the name lasermonk |
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| 09:13 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:13 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 09:18 | <hobot> | yep |
| 09:19 | <hobot> | also this is a hello world program http://danieltemkin.com/Velato/velatotracks/print_h.mid |
| 09:19 | <hobot> | edit printing the letter h |
| 09:19 | <hobot> | this is a cool language |
| 09:19 | <hobot> | http://danieltemkin.com/Velato.aspx |
| 09:22 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:23 | <hobot> | do you have a link to that |
| 09:24 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:24 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 09:25 | <hobot> | ill do it, I just wanted to make sure im not an idiot |
| 09:25 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:25 | <hobot> | I was googling and couldnt find it |
| 09:25 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 09:26 | <hobot> | I bought my first computer in 2001 ^-^ |
| 09:26 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:26 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 09:26 | <hobot> | lol |
| 09:26 | <hobot> | so he is a jester |
| 09:26 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:26 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:26 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:27 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:27 | <hobot> | it looks like it might be on usenet |
| 09:27 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:27 | <Marius> | When Ron Weasley Says 'Bloody Hell' You Know The Shit Is Going Down <-- ahahaha |
| 09:27 | <hobot> | that is a great way to end a letter |
| 09:28 | <hobot> | We will keep your resume on file for 6 months just in case another job comes up |
| 09:28 | <hobot> | that we can reject you for. |
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| 09:29 | <amitz> | hobot: do you like it better if they keep your file for perpetuity? ;-) |
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| 09:30 | <hobot> | if a person wants to review my qualifications for a job as it comes across their desk |
| 09:30 | <hobot> | even if it is to say no |
| 09:30 | <hobot> | ill take it |
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| 09:42 | <amitz> | why? |
| 09:44 | <hobot> | because I have never had a job interview that went badly first of all |
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| 09:44 | <hobot> | and second of all usually I learn something from the exchange even if I dont get the job |
| 09:45 | <JshWright> | I don't think I've ever used my resume as anything more than a formality... |
| 09:46 | <JshWright> | "Oh, by the way, send me a copy of your resume so I can get it over to HR for the paperwork" |
| 09:46 | <hobot> | welp |
| 09:46 | <hobot> | I guess im not as talented yet |
| 09:46 | <JshWright> | s/talented/networked/ |
| 09:47 | <Marius> | I didn't even have to do that o_O |
| 09:47 | <Marius> | I jsut randomly got a text one day "got msn?" |
| 09:47 | <hobot> | thats pretty cool |
| 09:47 | * | hobot is really jealous |
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| 09:49 | <amitz> | damn you all! |
| 09:50 | <hobot> | dont worry amitz we will start our OWN secret society of people with cool jobs |
| 09:51 | <amitz> | the network i develop are mostly the kind of old style business people. can't hope for the kind of career i'm looking for -_- |
| 09:51 | <amitz> | hobot: yes hobit :-P |
| 09:52 | <amitz> | developed |
| 09:52 | <Marius> | can I be part of the super cool secret club? |
| 09:52 | <JshWright> | Marius: got msn? |
| 09:53 | <Marius> | haha |
| 09:53 | <hobot> | >:) |
| 09:53 | <Marius> | Why yes, yes I do |
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| 09:53 | <cereal> | so my linode basically has issues doing simple things like editing a file from time to time |
| 09:54 | <cereal> | as in -- using vi file.txt will take 2-3 seconds or more to load (on a few kb file) |
| 09:54 | <cereal> | anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this? |
| 09:54 | <JshWright> | cereal: is the terminal otherwise responsive? (keystrokes show up right away) |
| 09:55 | <cereal> | JshWright, also unresponsive |
| 09:55 | <cereal> | I first thought it was my works internet connection which sure can be lame, but at home I had the same problem |
| 09:55 | <JshWright> | then I'd guess it's a network issue between you and your linode |
| 09:55 | <cereal> | :( |
| 09:56 | <JshWright> | cereal: next time you notice it happeneing, run mtr to see if there's a slowdown somewhere in the tube |
| 09:56 | <cereal> | I've been tunneling to my linode to bypass work filters (hehe) and that also has huge issues but when I tunnel to my house, I dont have them |
| 09:56 | <cereal> | JshWright, ok |
| 09:56 | <cereal> | any other thoughts than just mtr? |
| 09:56 | <cereal> | my load average is basically 0 heh |
| 09:57 | <amitz> | on the other hand, I had unsolicited "have you met my daughter?" from my network -_- |
| 09:58 | <Marius> | Haaaaaaaaaaave you met Ted? |
| 09:58 | <amitz> | I'm sorry sire, I don't swing that way. |
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| 09:58 | <JshWright> | cereal: no, the symptoms you're describing sound like simple network latency |
| 10:00 | <amitz> | unless you're willing to direct all your purchase to my company. |
| 10:03 | <Solver> | amitz: :) |
| 10:06 | <amitz> | Solver: :-p |
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| 10:13 | <hobot> | I know that networks are multipurposed |
| 10:13 | <Marius> | heading home, back in a bit |
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| 10:15 | <praetorian> | multipurposed? |
| 10:15 | <praetorian> | multihomed? |
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| 10:16 | <amitz> | hobot: but there are lines that shouldn't be crossed, like sending the picture of your daughter to the target's parents... |
| 10:16 | <hobot> | well yeah |
| 10:16 | <hobot> | thats kind of too much |
| 10:16 | <hobot> | was she that hot or something |
| 10:17 | <hobot> | like was he just bragging |
| 10:17 | <amitz> | if thedailywtf accepts non IT entries, I'm sure I can get featured -_- |
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| 10:17 | <haikubear9> | hi all |
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| 10:18 | <haikubear9> | i am wondering if anyone knows how to set the time on linode manager to match the time on the actual linode... |
| 10:18 | <haikubear9> | it's a bit of a pain otherwise to reconcile my logs with linode's graphs :( |
| 10:18 | <amitz> | no, he wanted to convince my parents to convince me. And that tells a lot to the kind of network I (unfortunately) developed: old-style people. |
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| 10:19 | <hobot> | yeah |
| 10:19 | <amitz> | haikubear9: you can set timezone in platform. And timezone in your linode. |
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| 10:20 | <haikubear9> | amitz - in platform? |
| 10:20 | <amitz> | haikubear9: linode platform manager. The site you usually log into |
| 10:21 | <JshWright> | commonly called the "control panel" |
| 10:21 | <haikubear9> | right - so where is that option? i can't seem to find it... |
| 10:22 | <haikubear9> | i would have thought 'settings and utilities' tab, but it's not there. |
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| 10:23 | <amitz> | shit, I forget my password.. |
| 10:24 | <amitz> | My Profile |
| 10:27 | <@jed> | hunter2 |
| 10:27 | <stan_theman> | ******* |
| 10:27 | <stan_theman> | it works! |
| 10:27 | <haikubear9> | hehehe |
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| 10:28 | <haikubear9> | oh for crying outloud |
| 10:28 | <haikubear9> | thanks amitz! |
| 10:29 | <amitz> | np haiku bear 9, interesting name :-) |
| 10:29 | <haikubear9> | thx :) |
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| 10:34 | <@Perihelion> | I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST LIKE NO ONE EVER WASSSSS |
| 10:34 | <@Perihelion> | TO CATCH THEM IS MY REAL TEST TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAUSEEEEEEE |
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| 10:35 | <praetorian> | ok then |
| 10:35 | <praetorian> | you do that |
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| 10:37 | <amitz> | Daevien: I don't want to share cage with Perihelion anymore. I'm scared :'( |
| 10:39 | <praetorian> | nel/z 32 |
| 10:39 | <praetorian> | whoops |
| 10:41 | <@Perihelion> | I'm listening to Metallica |
| 10:41 | <@Perihelion> | So you should want to be in the same room |
| 10:41 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 10:41 | <@Perihelion> | >:3 |
| 10:41 | <@Perihelion> | Don't say things |
| 10:42 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 10:42 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 10:42 | <@Perihelion> | TAKEEEEE MY HANDDDDD OFF TO NEVER NEVER LAND |
| 10:42 | <praetorian> | Perihelion: metallica is here soon |
| 10:42 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 10:42 | <praetorian> | \o/ |
| 10:46 | <Null_> | you guys didn't grab linode.co? |
| 10:46 | <praetorian> | woo, lets grab it |
| 10:47 | <JshWright> | *Send* ... "The word 'attached' is in your e-mail, but you have not included an attachment. Would you like to do so now?" "Why yes gmail, I would, thanks for asking" |
| 10:47 | <praetorian> | Dear Janet, I am really attached to you, Love JshWright |
| 10:47 | <praetorian> | "The word 'attached' is in your e-mail, but you have not included an attachment. Would you like to do so now?" |
| 10:47 | <amitz> | that's so considerate of gmail. |
| 10:48 | <JshWright> | praetorian: yes, I can see how it might not always work out, but in this case, the sentence in question was "Attached is an invoice for last week" |
| 10:48 | <praetorian> | hehe i know |
| 10:48 | <linbot> | New news from forums: SSL Certificate Installation in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5965>; |
| 10:48 | <cereal> | I'm a fan of the attachment prediction stuff on gmail |
| 10:49 | <cereal> | its saved me a few times from looking like a dumbass |
| 10:49 | <praetorian> | arse |
| 10:49 | <praetorian> | linode.co is already taken. (Get info) |
| 10:50 | <@jed> | Linode is a registered trademark of Linode, LLC. |
| 10:50 | <@jed> | :> |
| 10:50 | <praetorian> | linode .. its a new way to line your ode |
| 10:50 | <praetorian> | just like windows me! |
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| 10:50 | <@Perihelion> | zomg. |
| 10:50 | <praetorian> | http://web.archive.org/web/20000409003825/http://www.windowsme.com/ |
| 10:52 | <Null_> | praetorian: linode.co taken, I guess linode is attempting to file for arbitration to get it back. |
| 10:53 | <Null_> | was just funny, because the article I saw it in, was making fun of dreamhost for not knowing to grab dreamhost.co, linode was mentioned further down the article |
| 10:54 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Reverse DNS in Linux Networking <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5972>; |
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| 10:55 | <bkerensa> | Anyone help me with reverse dns for some reason my reverse dns is not working when I go to webmin it tells me to go to https://li-58.members.linode.com |
| 10:56 | <bkerensa> | however my reverse dns is setup to www.nodewide.com |
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| 11:04 | <JshWright> | bk<tab>...<tab>... wtf? oh... |
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| 11:08 | <mendel> | haha |
| 11:08 | <mendel> | I just did the same thing |
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| 11:14 | <Karrde> | Name: detritus.pyropus.ca |
| 11:14 | <Karrde> | Address: 64.5.53.58 |
| 11:15 | <Karrde> | $ host www.nodewide.com |
| 11:15 | <Karrde> | www.nodewide.com A 178.79.139.57 |
| 11:15 | <Karrde> | ??? |
| 11:19 | <mwalling> | huh? |
| 11:20 | <mwalling> | oh |
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| 11:39 | <burningdog> | Hey, just added an A record, and it exists in ns1.linode.com, but when I ping it I get "unknown host". Did I miss a step? |
| 11:39 | <Daevien> | yep, waiting |
| 11:40 | <@caker> | the part how DNS propagates |
| 11:40 | <dr_jkl> | burningdog: zones take 15 minutes to generate |
| 11:40 | <@caker> | dr_jkl: sush - that's not the issue |
| 11:40 | <burningdog> | it's not a change to an A record - it's a new A record |
| 11:40 | <burningdog> | should've mentioned I'm pinging it while ssh'd into my linode |
| 11:41 | <burningdog> | thought it would do the DNS lookup using ns1.linode.com? |
| 11:41 | <dr_jkl> | caker: so i'd be wrong to tell him that after 20 or so minutes, 'dig a foo @ns1.linode.com' should work? :P |
| 11:41 | <@caker> | burningdog: resolvers cache. Even negative/missing entries. You must wait until the TTL expires |
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| 11:41 | <burningdog> | ah, the TTL on the host A record |
| 11:41 | <@caker> | dr_jkl: he already established that "it exists in ns1.linode.com", which implies the zone generation bit is done |
| 11:42 | <@caker> | burningdog: and for missing records, resolvers use the TTL of the zone :/ |
| 11:42 | <burningdog> | gotcha. Thanks, caker :) |
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| 11:42 | <@caker> | burningdog: solution: /etc/hosts ! :) |
| 11:42 | <burningdog> | I heard you drink mini-beers - how can I send you one? |
| 11:43 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 11:43 | <burningdog> | lol! |
| 11:44 | * | burningdog wonders about adding btp:// to the Infinite Monkey Protocol Suite. Could help those monkeys! |
| 11:44 | <@Perihelion> | \o/ |
| 11:46 | <dr_jkl> | aaahhh |
| 11:46 | <dr_jkl> | caker: i see. |
| 11:47 | <dr_jkl> | caker: more coffee is required. i forget that linode customers are oftentimes smarter than usual, so i interpreted 'it exists in ns1.linode.com' as 'i see it in the zone manager, ahurrdurr.' |
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| 11:57 | <EdimuXull> | Where are the linode kernel sources? I need the kernel headers. |
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| 11:58 | <JshWright> | http://linode.com/src/ |
| 11:59 | <EdimuXull> | Awesome. how can I tell which system I am running? |
| 11:59 | <EdimuXull> | for which headers I need. |
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| 12:00 | <EdimuXull> | o, I got it. |
| 12:03 | <EdimuXull> | I'llhave to fuck with this later. the back of a retarded health class is def not theplace to fight with slack. Least it'd keep me awake, though. |
| 12:04 | <HoopyCat> | might as well get it done now; shouldn't be too long before they start discussing the pubic region |
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| 12:05 | <EdimuXull> | College sexed probably wouldn't be as amusing to watch as HS, though. |
| 12:05 | <EdimuXull> | sex ed* |
| 12:07 | <EdimuXull> | We always seem to get on the "omg, MCDonalds is killing the world!" topic. |
| 12:08 | <EdimuXull> | dam that Mcdonalds! It's the chinese secretly taking over the country. We're all going to be so fat they can just take us over soon. |
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| 12:48 | <chrisA> | Ok, so what domain services aren't as tacky / infuriating as godaddy? |
| 12:48 | <chrisA> | I'd love to move my domains off them |
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| 12:49 | <Daevien> | name.com, namecheap.com, nearlyfreespech.net seem to be popular here |
| 12:51 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Xen timing wonkyness in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5731>; |
| 12:51 | <Daevien> | er nearlyfreespeech.net |
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| 13:04 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 13:04 | <EdimuXull> | I just installed slackware on my linode; I have a spare linode that I have different distros loaded on for testing a project I'm working on. But when I try to do headers_install, it gives me an error about MAX_PATH being undefined; is there a fix for this? It seems that the CRT isn't installed, is there a slack package for that? |
| 13:04 | <EdimuXull> | ... |
| 13:04 | <EdimuXull> | the retarded antilol bot speaks! |
| 13:05 | <Daevien> | it's actually a real person, he just usually lurks and lets his script speak for him |
| 13:05 | <EdimuXull> | or maybe not.. probably another trigger. |
| 13:05 | <EdimuXull> | slackware |
| 13:05 | <Daevien> | far as slack package, not sure. haven't used slack in a while now |
| 13:06 | <Daevien> | try google is my best suggestion |
| 13:06 | <EdimuXull> | me nods. I've been trolling it. |
| 13:07 | <avenj> | mikegrb is an AI running in caker's office |
| 13:07 | <@mikegrb> | s/office/pants/ |
| 13:07 | <avenj> | :o |
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| 13:07 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:07 | <MTecknology> | lol |
| 13:08 | <MTecknology> | mikegrb: hi |
| 13:08 | <MTecknology> | mikegrb: so.. I noticed that linode.com looks a lot liek a drupal website.. |
| 13:08 | <mwalling> | you realize he's not actually here, right? |
| 13:08 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:08 | <mwalling> | lol |
| 13:08 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 13:08 | <mwalling> | cake |
| 13:08 | <mwalling> | etc. |
| 13:08 | <mdcollins> | bacon |
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| 13:09 | <mwalling> | and how the hell can you tell the framework that runs a site based on the look? |
| 13:09 | <mwalling> | (espically when the pages end in .cfm) |
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| 13:09 | <EdimuXull> | yay. /ignore mikegrb ++! And some people use the same template and that that is the default. |
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| 13:11 | <MTecknology> | mwalling: I know it's not - I was looking at the source |
| 13:11 | <mwalling> | you're looking at HTML to determine the framework? |
| 13:12 | <MTecknology> | easiest way usually |
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| 13:12 | <mwalling> | uh |
| 13:12 | <mwalling> | ok, look at http://you.dontlike.us/ and tell me what framework i use |
| 13:12 | <opello> | <meta name="generator"? |
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| 13:12 | * | mwalling glares |
| 13:13 | * | opello goes to lunch |
| 13:13 | <MTecknology> | mwalling: Django |
| 13:14 | <walterheck> | I need to enlarge a disk, but I get ther message "lv_resize: Image is currently snapshotted" |
| 13:14 | <mwalling> | walterheck: backups enabled? |
| 13:14 | <mwalling> | MTecknology: how did you come to that conclusion? |
| 13:14 | <walterheck> | yes |
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| 13:14 | <walterheck> | mwalling: but it seems to have been running for an hour + while 7 mins is normal |
| 13:14 | <mwalling> | walterheck: they're currently running |
| 13:15 | * | mwalling shrugs |
| 13:15 | <walterheck> | Type Started Finished Duration Status Message |
| 13:15 | <walterheck> | auto 2010-09-01 00:07:05 running |
| 13:15 | <walterheck> | That's over an hour ago |
| 13:15 | <mwalling> | !ops |
| 13:15 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/ |
| 13:15 | <walterheck> | hmmm, that pasted crappy |
| 13:15 | <mwalling> | i fall in "the rest of us" |
| 13:15 | <HoopyCat> | walterheck: probably worth a ticket, if something is on fire |
| 13:16 | <walterheck> | HoopyCat: not _really_, i'll try booting the linode back up first |
| 13:17 | <walterheck> | maybe that made the backup crap? |
| 13:17 | <HoopyCat> | walterheck: the staff are in the midst of an office move, so i figure senior staff will be sparse on the IRC for a couple of days |
| 13:17 | <kastang> | exit |
| 13:18 | <mwalling> | kastang: why would you want to exit? |
| 13:18 | <mwalling> | :) |
| 13:18 | <walterheck> | HoopyCat: no worries, it's not a big problem |
| 13:18 | <walterheck> | i'll give it a go during another maintenance window |
| 13:18 | <@mikegrb> | walterheck: imma take a look |
| 13:19 | <walterheck> | you need a node number? |
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| 13:19 | <@mikegrb> | nah, I have magic cow powers |
| 13:19 | <walterheck> | mooh! |
| 13:19 | <walterheck> | or whatever sound a cow makes :) |
| 13:19 | <mwalling> | moo |
| 13:20 | <MTecknology> | I like steak |
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| 13:21 | <mwalling> | MTecknology: how about http://noobfarm.org |
| 13:21 | <HoopyCat> | best way to get senior staff on IRC: call them out for being too busy to IRC |
| 13:23 | <@jed> | HoopyCat: we've staggered it enough that we'll never be truly sparse |
| 13:23 | <@jed> | you never know when we're watching! |
| 13:23 | <MTecknology> | mwalling: look way down at the bottom |
| 13:23 | <MTecknology> | mwalling: smarty.net |
| 13:23 | <straterra> | jed: I hope you're ALWAYS watching..thats SO hot |
| 13:24 | <@jed> | :> |
| 13:24 | <mwalling> | MTecknology: fuck :) |
| 13:24 | <straterra> | rawr |
| 13:24 | <mwalling> | actually, its not much smarty anymore |
| 13:24 | <mwalling> | MTecknology: rexfordfire.org |
| 13:24 | <MTecknology> | mwalling: I have to work :P |
| 13:25 | <MTecknology> | mwalling: django again |
| 13:25 | <MTecknology> | it's time for me to work |
| 13:25 | <MTecknology> | :P |
| 13:25 | <straterra> | Baby sheep taste AWESOME |
| 13:26 | <straterra> | On some pita bread..and some potatoes. |
| 13:27 | <walterheck> | mikegrb: so now it is a fire, my linode doesn't start back up.. |
| 13:28 | <opello> | MTecknology: what's the django giveaway? stucture? not headers ... |
| 13:28 | <HoopyCat> | so i go to use the microwave, and there's a plastic-wrapped bowl of moldy carrots |
| 13:29 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:29 | <opello> | or /admin, lol |
| 13:29 | <opello> | gg |
| 13:29 | <@mikegrb> | walterheck: you used reboot inside the linode to shut it down? |
| 13:29 | <HoopyCat> | the thing really, really needs a "your food is done" blinky light |
| 13:29 | <walterheck> | just now i used lish |
| 13:29 | <walterheck> | before that i used the shutdown button in the admin panel |
| 13:30 | <@mikegrb> | yeah that'll take a moment for lassie to issue the boot jobs |
| 13:33 | <Karrde> | you are now aware of how uncomfortable your chair is |
| 13:34 | * | linbot grimaces and leans to the left, suddenly realizing that robots do have bums |
| 13:35 | <@mikegrb> | walterheck: should be good to go, bug fixed |
| 13:36 | <walterheck> | mikegrb: should i reboot from the panel again? |
| 13:37 | <@mikegrb> | walterheck: looked booted last I looked? |
| 13:37 | <walterheck> | it is, but not respondign to anything besides lish |
| 13:37 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:37 | <MTecknology> | lol |
| 13:37 | <@mikegrb> | ahh, well you could give that a shot |
| 13:37 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 13:37 | <MTecknology> | cake |
| 13:37 | <MTecknology> | beer |
| 13:37 | * | walterheck crosses his fingers |
| 13:38 | <MTecknology> | mikegrb: beer is <reply>Only good if it's dark! |
| 13:39 | <walterheck> | mikegrb: rebooted from panel, no go |
| 13:41 | <@mikegrb> | walterheck: can I type on your console? |
| 13:41 | <walterheck> | mikegrb: go ahead |
| 13:41 | <Daevien> | hearing mike say that sounds creepy |
| 13:42 | <walterheck> | mikegrb: none of ssh or even network has coem back up for some reason |
| 13:43 | <@mikegrb> | yeah, I'm not sure why that happened, I don't grok redhat stuffs :< |
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| 13:44 | <walterheck> | i'm gonna try another reboot now, see what happens |
| 13:44 | <@mikegrb> | k |
| 13:44 | * | walterheck is a bit worried |
| 13:48 | <walterheck> | mikegrb: not coming back up properly :( |
| 13:49 | <HoopyCat> | pastebin the console schtuff? |
| 13:49 | <walterheck> | HoopyCat: ajax lish just shows normal login, no errors or nothing |
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| 13:51 | <walterheck> | tail /var/log/boot.log is empty :S |
| 13:51 | <@mikegrb> | walterheck: I can pastebin the startup for you |
| 13:52 | <walterheck> | mikegrb: go ahead |
| 13:52 | <walterheck> | i saw you start ssh and networking manually |
| 13:52 | <walterheck> | but i can't seem to find an error anywhere |
| 13:52 | <@mikegrb> | http://p.linode.com/4153 |
| 13:52 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 13:53 | <@mikegrb> | for some reason it thinks it's not supposed to auto-start them |
| 13:53 | * | walterheck has an idea |
| 13:54 | <walterheck> | i just had someone do an audit a week or so ago on that system, he might have been too quick |
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| 14:00 | <bibble> | anyone had any issues doing a WHM/Cpanel install on a CentOS node before? |
| 14:03 | <HoopyCat> | walterheck: in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (i think), is the HWADDR set? |
| 14:03 | <JshWright> | no, but I don't run CPanel or Centos, so I wouldn't expect to |
| 14:03 | <Daevien> | issue most likely isn't linode bibble. whm/cpanel = buggy as hell all on it's own :P |
| 14:03 | <walterheck> | HoopyCat: nope |
| 14:04 | <HoopyCat> | walterheck: there went my guess :-) |
| 14:04 | <walterheck> | i have the audit dude on skype now, checking what he did |
| 14:04 | <bibble> | i'm not blaming linode, but i do know i've dont this 4 time before on my old provider's VM without issue ;) |
| 14:05 | <HoopyCat> | Ran 69 tests in 113.712s |
| 14:05 | <HoopyCat> | FAILED (failures=24, errors=30) |
| 14:05 | * | HoopyCat thinks there's a bizarro field in effect |
| 14:05 | <HoopyCat> | bibble: what's it doing? |
| 14:05 | <@pparadis> | bibble: i'm about to publish a library guide on cpanel/centos 5 |
| 14:05 | <@pparadis> | i haven't had any issues with it. |
| 14:05 | <Daevien> | bibble: make sure you have all the pre-reqs. cul dbe the linode one is more bare install than old vm |
| 14:05 | <bibble> | HoopyCat - mysql isn't installing and falls over |
| 14:06 | <@pparadis> | Daevien: you don't need any prereqs aside from a freshly deployed linode and some base configuration before the install |
| 14:07 | <Daevien> | been a fw years since i ran cpanel though it wa son centos, just never on a linode, thats why i said to check ;) |
| 14:07 | <HoopyCat> | hee hee, the mouth of the alligator points to the variable i want to be *larger* |
| 14:07 | <Daevien> | cpanel is a picky thing to setup |
| 14:07 | <@pparadis> | it's really not. |
| 14:08 | * | HoopyCat forgoes sleeping until 1970 |
| 14:08 | <bibble> | i'm tempted to go back to x86 centos and try again |
| 14:08 | <bibble> | dont need x64 for my size node |
| 14:08 | <@pparadis> | bibble: i'll be publishing that guide in under 30 minutes |
| 14:08 | * | HoopyCat orders a pizza |
| 14:08 | <Daevien> | well, when i used it, it was. did 5 identical setups on real hardware one day. 4 worked, one failed multiple times :P |
| 14:08 | <bibble> | k i'll take a look for it in a bit |
| 14:08 | <HoopyCat> | first one here gets a tip |
| 14:08 | * | JshWright starts the clock |
| 14:09 | <Solver> | tick |
| 14:09 | <Solver> | tick |
| 14:09 | <Solver> | tick |
| 14:09 | <Solver> | :) |
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| 14:17 | <EdimuXull> | I'm trying to do a make headers_install in slack to install my kernel headers, but it doesn't look as if the CRT is installed... Is there a specific package for that? |
| 14:17 | <EdimuXull> | I'm not finding anything that looks like it could help. |
| 14:18 | * | snubby tips hat |
| 14:18 | <snubby> | o7 |
| 14:18 | * | EdimuXull steals the hat. |
| 14:18 | * | snubby gets another new one for free |
| 14:19 | <JshWright> | woah! you can get free hats? |
| 14:20 | <EdimuXull> | apt-get wear hat! |
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| 14:25 | <@Perihelion> | Do you know what time it is? |
| 14:25 | <@Perihelion> | It's Journey time. |
| 14:29 | <@pparadis> | don't stop believing. |
| 14:29 | <@Perihelion> | I won't. |
| 14:31 | <scb> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymi52UbGEZM |
| 14:35 | <@Perihelion> | Yes :> |
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| 14:38 | <@pparadis> | ding |
| 14:38 | <@pparadis> | 30 seconds to spare |
| 14:39 | <Daevien> | pparadis: caker says you only last 5 seconds, not 30 |
| 14:39 | <@pparadis> | that's only because caker's so hawt |
| 14:39 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 14:39 | <Daevien> | lol |
| 14:39 | <mdcollins> | >_< |
| 14:43 | <Daevien> | pparadis: your warnign against ftp links to http://dev.library.linode.com/CwUKTy FYI |
| 14:43 | <@pparadis> | i know |
| 14:43 | <@pparadis> | tweaked version out in a few |
| 14:43 | <Daevien> | :) |
| 14:43 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Postfix with MySQL/Postgres: startup issues on Centos 5.5 in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5973>; |
| 14:44 | <linbot> | New news from linodelibrary: Manage Services with cPanel on CentOS 5 <http://library.linode.com/web-applications/control-panels/cpanel/centos-5>; |
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| 14:45 | <@Perihelion> | I think Daevien is trying to land him by proxy |
| 14:45 | <@Perihelion> | It seems to come up a lot |
| 14:45 | <@Perihelion> | And to think...I tabbed over to this thinking I would sing any way you want it |
| 14:45 | <@Perihelion> | Now I see this was a bad idea. |
| 14:45 | <@pparadis> | that's the way you need it. |
| 14:45 | <@pparadis> | WHOAAOAOAO |
| 14:46 | <Daevien> | pparadis = justin bieber? |
| 14:46 | <@pparadis> | no way |
| 14:46 | <@Perihelion> | No, thankfully. |
| 14:46 | <@pparadis> | JOURNEY, FOOL |
| 14:46 | <@Perihelion> | FFFFFFFFFFF |
| 14:46 | <@Perihelion> | lovin touchin squeezing came on next |
| 14:46 | <@Perihelion> | -_______________- |
| 14:46 | <Rob> | !! |
| 14:47 | <@Perihelion> | Robson save me :< |
| 14:47 | <Rob> | from what? :) |
| 14:47 | <@Perihelion> | Myself? |
| 14:47 | <Rob> | there is no saving you from you :( |
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| 14:48 | <@Perihelion> | HES LOVIN HES TOUCHIN HES SQUEEEEZINNNNNNN ANOTHERRRRRR |
| 14:49 | <SelfishMan> | !twss |
| 14:49 | <linbot> | THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! |
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| 15:15 | <shadow338> | hey |
| 15:15 | <shadow338> | what's the linode dns servers? |
| 15:15 | <shadow338> | can't find it on FAQ |
| 15:15 | <shadow338> | oh |
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| 15:16 | <mwalling> | shadow338: for hosting or resolving? |
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| 15:16 | <shadow338> | resolving I guess... |
| 15:17 | <shadow338> | hosting! |
| 15:17 | <shadow338> | sorry |
| 15:17 | <shadow338> | hosting |
| 15:17 | <shadow338> | heheh |
| 15:17 | <mwalling> | ns1 through ns5.linode.com |
| 15:17 | <shadow338> | ah |
| 15:17 | <shadow338> | got it |
| 15:17 | <shadow338> | tahnks! |
| 15:17 | <th1> | do any linodes have ipv6 |
| 15:17 | <mwalling> | !library linode dns manager |
| 15:17 | <mwalling> | th1: sure, ones who run through a tunnel |
| 15:17 | <linbot> | mwalling: timed out |
| 15:17 | <mwalling> | SelfishMan: ^^ fix it |
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| 15:20 | <mwalling> | th1: (no, there is no native ipv6 (yet)) |
| 15:20 | <SelfishMan> | mwalling: I fail to see how this is my problem |
| 15:20 | <mwalling> | SelfishMan: cause i said |
| 15:21 | <shadow338> | what's the option "Domain Status" when I'm adding a new domain zone? |
| 15:21 | <shadow338> | Turn ON or OFF hosting for this domain |
| 15:21 | <Nivex> | th1: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Talk:IPv6 |
| 15:21 | <SelfishMan> | !library linode dns manager |
| 15:21 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: 1. Use MySQL Relational Databases on Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) (http://bitl.in/d4dlo) - 2. Configuring DNS with the Linode Manager (http://bitl.in/qerv) - 3. Resizing Linode Instances with the Linode Manager (http://bitl.in/ix7h) |
| 15:21 | * | SelfishMan fails to see a problem |
| 15:22 | <th1> | ty |
| 15:22 | <th1> | will look |
| 15:23 | <Nivex> | There's a contact form on NAC's site. Anyone want to pose as a potential customer and ask when IPv6 is coming? :) |
| 15:24 | <SelfishMan> | Nivex: 2 years after it becomes relevant |
| 15:25 | <Nivex> | then that's a leg up on London. Someone here a couple weeks ago was saying 10 years for then |
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| 15:25 | <SelfishMan> | Nivex: well, it isn't relevant here yet |
| 15:28 | <Nivex> | What would you consider relevant? (not trolling here. getting presentation material.) |
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| 15:30 | <shadow338> | is the SOA mail my personal email? |
| 15:33 | <hawk> | shadow338: the SOA RNAME? |
| 15:33 | <shadow338> | when I add a new domain |
| 15:33 | <shadow338> | it's asking for SOA E-mail |
| 15:34 | <hawk> | Sure sounds like the RNAME field... it should be the email of some responsible person |
| 15:34 | <shadow338> | oh |
| 15:35 | <shadow338> | that means 'me' then |
| 15:35 | <shadow338> | hehe |
| 15:35 | <swaj> | WCF makes me want to scream..... until I get it working properly and then I love it |
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| 15:44 | <Keith> | !spf keithnet.us |
| 15:44 | <linbot> | Keith: [spf] missing argument(s) use: !spf DOMAIN SENDER_IP |
| 15:44 | <Keith> | Oh woops |
| 15:44 | <Keith> | !spf mail@keithnet.us |
| 15:44 | <linbot> | Keith: [spf] missing argument(s) use: !spf DOMAIN SENDER_IP |
| 15:44 | <Nivex> | !spf nivex.net 152.2.62.204 |
| 15:44 | <linbot> | Nivex: [spf] softfail: nivex.net does not designate 152.2.62.204 as permitted sender (spf record: v=spf1 mx ~all) |
| 15:45 | <Keith> | Oh |
| 15:45 | <Keith> | !spf keithnet.us 1.2.3.4 |
| 15:45 | <linbot> | Keith: [spf] none: keithnet.us does not designate permitted sender hosts (spf record: ) |
| 15:45 | <Keith> | GRRR. |
| 15:46 | <Keith> | I was trying to get that to work in the form of a tx record. I added the following: In the name feeled, I put "keithnet.us" Then, in the value feeled, I put v=spf1 a mx ip4:<IP of Linode> ~all |
| 15:46 | <Keith> | Without the quotes that is. |
| 15:47 | <JshWright> | !spf keithnet.us <PUT THE IP ADDRESS YOU'RE TRYING TO CHECK HERE> |
| 15:47 | <linbot> | JshWright: [spf] missing argument(s) use: !spf DOMAIN SENDER_IP |
| 15:48 | <JshWright> | and it's a "field" not a "feeled" |
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| 15:52 | <Keith> | !spf keithnet.us 1.2.3.4 |
| 15:52 | <linbot> | Keith: [spf] none: keithnet.us does not designate permitted sender hosts (spf record: ) |
| 15:53 | <Keith> | Oh |
| 15:53 | <Keith> | I forgot |
| 15:53 | <Keith> | Linode's DNS takes 15 minutes to update the zone file I think. |
| 15:53 | <JshWright> | your IP address is 1.2.3.4? |
| 15:53 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:53 | <Keith> | No LOL |
| 15:54 | <Keith> | Surely you could use whatever IP youw anted. |
| 15:54 | <Keith> | Laughing Out Loud |
| 15:54 | <JshWright> | Surely it won't work if you use an IP that isn't designated as a sender for that domain |
| 15:54 | <bibble> | how long should it take for the lish password change to take effect? |
| 15:54 | <Keith> | I'm not sure. |
| 15:54 | <JshWright> | granted, you'll get a different error message, but it will still error |
| 15:55 | <JshWright> | bibble: should happen NOW |
| 15:55 | <bibble> | hrm, must be doing something wrong then, i've waited 5 hours :P |
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| 15:56 | <Keith> | Linode's web-based control pannel is pretty cool. |
| 15:56 | <Keith> | I don't have to use it too much though. |
| 15:56 | <bibble> | huzzar turns out my password was too complicated |
| 15:57 | <Keith> | The only thing that I can't access as a blind user is the graphs for CPU, network, etc. Is tehre any tools that (don't require logging in) that I could use on my Lnode to find out how much bandwidth I've used? I could run an ifconfig, but that gets annoying after a while. |
| 15:58 | <Keith> | !spf keithnet.us 72.14.189.206 |
| 15:58 | <linbot> | Keith: [spf] none: keithnet.us does not designate permitted sender hosts (spf record: ) |
| 15:59 | <Keith> | WTF.. |
| 15:59 | <Keith> | Now I just tested the actual IP I am sending amil from and it doesn't do SPF? I wonder if you have to use quotes in the txt record? Linode's DNS manager doens't support SPF records as such. So you have to use TXT. Whenever I see an example it's V="blahblah" |
| 16:02 | <swaj> | !spf geeksharp.com 74.125.127.27 |
| 16:02 | <linbot> | swaj: [spf] pass: geeksharp.com designates 74.125.127.27 as permitted sender (spf record: v=spf1 include:_spf.google.com ~all) |
| 16:05 | <Keith> | !txt geeksharp.com |
| 16:06 | <Keith> | !dig geeksharp.com |
| 16:06 | <linbot> | Keith: [dig] status: NOERROR | ;; ANSWER SECTION: geeksharp.com. 86400 IN A 74.207.247.33 | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION |
| 16:06 | <Keith> | Hmm |
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| 16:06 | <Keith> | No tx values for that domain, as far as I know |
| 16:07 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 16:07 | <swaj> | you have to dig the txt records, lol |
| 16:07 | <swaj> | a generic dig does nothing |
| 16:07 | <Keith> | !dig txt geeksharp.com |
| 16:07 | <linbot> | Keith: [dig] status: NXDOMAIN | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION . 86400 IN SOA a.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2010083101 1800 900 604800 86400 |
| 16:07 | <Keith> | Laughing Out Loud that didn't work either. |
| 16:08 | <Keith> | Well sort of tidd. |
| 16:08 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 16:08 | <Nivex> | Keith: you think you can suppress the expansion of LOL? |
| 16:08 | * | Keith nods. |
| 16:08 | <@pparadis> | http://bitchesbetripp.in/ |
| 16:08 | <@Perihelion> | Attention Linodians: pparadis is RAGIN. That is all. |
| 16:08 | <Keith> | Done. :D |
| 16:08 | <Nivex> | pparadis: what. the. hell. |
| 16:08 | <swaj> | go dig txt geeksharp.com at a command line :P |
| 16:09 | <@pparadis> | Nivex: <3 |
| 16:09 | <Keith> | Heh |
| 16:09 | <@Perihelion> | Also pparadis is a liar |
| 16:09 | <@pparadis> | swaj: Perihelion just replied with "nou go dig poop in my butt" |
| 16:09 | <Keith> | I wondered around here why Perihelion is the only one who tels the truth about anything. :) |
| 16:09 | <@pparadis> | and i was like o_O |
| 16:09 | <@Perihelion> | He was excited tbh |
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| 16:09 | <@pparadis> | no |
| 16:09 | <@Perihelion> | ;) |
| 16:09 | <@Perihelion> | Oh baby |
| 16:10 | <@pparadis> | don't tease |
| 16:10 | <@Perihelion> | I'm not big boy |
| 16:10 | <swaj> | ewww scat |
| 16:10 | * | Keith teases anyways. |
| 16:10 | <@Perihelion> | om nom nom |
| 16:10 | * | Keith hides |
| 16:10 | <@pparadis> | THAT IS NOT A COOKIE |
| 16:10 | <@Perihelion> | But it has nuts in it :( |
| 16:10 | <Keith> | Nuts suck. |
| 16:10 | <Nivex> | oh emm gee |
| 16:10 | * | pparadis just shakes his head slowly |
| 16:10 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 16:10 | <Keith> | LOL |
| 16:10 | <Nivex> | what the hell are you smoking up there in NJ? |
| 16:11 | <@pparadis> | don't be trippin |
| 16:11 | <@Perihelion> | You wanna FITE |
| 16:11 | <Keith> | No. ;) |
| 16:11 | <Keith> | But I'm sure Caker does. |
| 16:11 | <Nivex> | make love not war |
| 16:12 | * | Keith watches Caker begin bashing the staff around a bit with a ten foot rod. LOL |
| 16:12 | <Keith> | Oh...yuck. There's something wrong with that image. |
| 16:12 | <@Perihelion> | Awwww yeahhhhhhh |
| 16:13 | <Keith> | Heh |
| 16:13 | <Keith> | Poor Perihelion. I was just kidding. |
| 16:13 | <@Perihelion> | I'm pretty much scarred for life now. |
| 16:13 | <Nivex> | This is my BOOMSTICK! |
| 16:13 | <@Perihelion> | Thanks. |
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| 16:13 | <Keith> | Sorry! I wasn't trying to do that! |
| 16:13 | <@Perihelion> | Too late now |
| 16:13 | * | Keith groans. |
| 16:13 | * | Perihelion has a daymare |
| 16:13 | <Keith> | Damn me then. |
| 16:15 | <Keith> | Okay..What would you like me to do? I'll do whatever you want! Well, as long as you don't want root access to my Node, ;). Sorry for scaring you! I'll even give you a standard user account to my pretty node if you want. :( |
| 16:15 | <Keith> | Shouldn't have had Caker beat you up with that thing..damn me. |
| 16:15 | <Nivex> | why is it always a mare? why not a stallion? |
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| 16:15 | * | Keith takes the rod and slams himself in the eyes with it. |
| 16:16 | <Keith> | Youch..now I'm screwd. |
| 16:16 | <Keith> | Well |
| 16:16 | <Keith> | I'm already blind..so |
| 16:16 | <Nivex> | I was gonna say, you weren't using them anyway. |
| 16:16 | * | Perihelion has a daygelding |
| 16:17 | <Keith> | Heh |
| 16:17 | <Keith> | Yeah they don't work. |
| 16:17 | <Nivex> | great, now Perihelion is going around neutering things |
| 16:17 | <@Perihelion> | >:D |
| 16:17 | <Keith> | Whoohoo! |
| 16:17 | <swaj> | I gotta admit I'm pretty impressed with archlinux, weird pacman syntax aside |
| 16:17 | <Keith> | What's weird about Pacman? |
| 16:17 | <swaj> | the syntax |
| 16:17 | <Keith> | Pacman -S package isn't hard. And Pacman -Syu isn't hard either. |
| 16:18 | <swaj> | I didn't say it was hard. It's weird. :) |
| 16:18 | <Keith> | Oh. |
| 16:18 | <Keith> | Okay then. |
| 16:18 | <Keith> | I could sayt aht emerge in Gentoo is weird. |
| 16:18 | * | Keith hates Amerge. |
| 16:18 | <@Perihelion> | I love portage |
| 16:18 | <@Perihelion> | Rob |
| 16:18 | <@Perihelion> | Back me up here |
| 16:19 | <swaj> | I'm not really a gentoo fan, either. I've been using ubuntu for a while, but I thought about using arch for one of my nodes |
| 16:19 | <Yaakov> | !shorten http://bit.ly/bdQ0id |
| 16:19 | <linbot> | Yaakov: [shorten] http://bit.ly/bdQ0id is http://webmailadminwebportal.WebStarts.com/index.html |
| 16:19 | <Yaakov> | Hrm. |
| 16:19 | <Keith> | Perihelion: Why do you prefer portage? |
| 16:19 | <Keith> | As aposed to say Arches Pacman, etc? |
| 16:20 | <@Perihelion> | Command structure |
| 16:20 | <Keith> | And yes, I know you can compile from source. But I could argue this, and say that you can "Source-Compile" from Debian/Ubuntu/Arch etc and taht binary builds aren't the only otpions for those users as well. |
| 16:20 | <HoopyCat> | swaj: i'm kinda with you on arch... i think it would be a darn cromulent bleeding-edge server box (e.g. if you're running latest ubuntu and it ain't cutting the mustard). it, uhh, kinda defeated me with the X config tho |
| 16:20 | <Keith> | options* |
| 16:20 | <@Perihelion> | the X stuff still gets me |
| 16:21 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 16:21 | <MTecknology> | lol |
| 16:21 | <@Perihelion> | But I blame that on HPs weirdness |
| 16:21 | <MTecknology> | beer |
| 16:21 | <MTecknology> | mikegrb: you fail... :( |
| 16:21 | <swaj> | HoopyCat: that's exactly what I like it for. the packages seem much more up-to-date, and it's a nice distro for a server |
| 16:21 | <MTecknology> | Perihelion: what.. hp is weird?... I don't believe you :P |
| 16:21 | <swaj> | HoopyCat: ubuntu beats it on the desktop, though, imo |
| 16:21 | <@Perihelion> | :> |
| 16:21 | <Keith> | She does not lie. |
| 16:21 | <@pparadis> | swaj: a rolling release is a nice distro for a server? |
| 16:21 | <Keith> | She tels the truth. |
| 16:21 | * | pparadis disagrees |
| 16:21 | <Keith> | :) |
| 16:22 | <Keith> | Why? |
| 16:22 | <@pparadis> | i don't want bleeding edge. i want stable software. |
| 16:22 | <Keith> | So 2+3 years outdated? |
| 16:22 | * | Nivex hands pparadis a nice copy of RHEL4 |
| 16:22 | * | Keith points a finger at any Debian Lenny user in this channel. |
| 16:22 | <swaj> | pparadis: you can get that with arch, it's just that the newer stuff is available too, if you want it. without having to compile from source |
| 16:22 | <MTecknology> | pparadis: I like point releases.. rolling release and a server don't make sense to me.. |
| 16:22 | <Keith> | Get off your lazy buts and stop deploying Debian installations that are old as hell. |
| 16:22 | <@pparadis> | i'm just fine with my debian, as it's *never* jacked me. |
| 16:23 | <Nivex> | Keith: remember, windows XP is 10 years old. |
| 16:23 | <MTecknology> | pparadis: the community and some defaults get under my skin - otherwise I'm with ya |
| 16:23 | <@pparadis> | i cannot say the same for arch users |
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| 16:23 | <Keith> | Oh yes |
| 16:23 | <Nivex> | debian on the server for the win |
| 16:23 | <MTecknology> | Nivex: Is it that young already? |
| 16:23 | <Nivex> | though I am looking forward to squeeze being released |
| 16:23 | * | pparadis is too |
| 16:23 | <swaj> | why would you use debian on a server over ubuntu? |
| 16:24 | <@pparadis> | ubuntu is based on debian |
| 16:24 | <swaj> | I know |
| 16:24 | <@Perihelion> | Honestly? I like the fact that the releases are far apart |
| 16:24 | <Yaakov> | Debian, is, for me, the optimal distribution. |
| 16:24 | <dajhorn> | swaj: Ubuntu has some bad habits, like upstart and trackerd. |
| 16:24 | <@pparadis> | debian just hasn't ever let me down. i do use ubuntu for some server-side stuff, but only where i need to. |
| 16:24 | <Keith> | But..aren't you folks concerned that there migth be a security hole in one of your server versions that Debian ships with? I mean..Ubuntu seems slightly more updated in it's package set, though I hear that they diverge too far from the Debian tree, to be compatible. |
| 16:24 | <@pparadis> | oh and yeah on upfail |
| 16:25 | <@Perihelion> | Debian maintains their crap though |
| 16:25 | <@pparadis> | exactly |
| 16:25 | <@Perihelion> | * is a package |
| 16:25 | <@pparadis> | it's very well maintained |
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| 16:25 | <swaj> | I guess another reason I like arch on a server is the configuration. None of this /etc/rc.d with symlinks all over the place |
| 16:25 | <@pparadis> | really? what's so hard about that? |
| 16:26 | <swaj> | I just don't like it |
| 16:26 | * | pparadis shrugs |
| 16:26 | <Keith> | Interesting. |
| 16:26 | <swaj> | update-rc.d = annoying to me |
| 16:26 | <Keith> | What's upstart anyways? |
| 16:26 | <Keith> | I've never heard of upstart. |
| 16:26 | <Keith> | And how is "upstart" bad? |
| 16:26 | <Keith> | If it is a package, you can remove it. |
| 16:26 | <Keith> | Thus the bad habet is erased with that package, whatever Ubuntu does. |
| 16:26 | <swaj> | uptstart is the init daemon in ubuntu |
| 16:27 | <Keith> | Oh nevermind! |
| 16:27 | <@pparadis> | upstart is a pile of fail. it essentially got wedged in because "one guy said so" |
| 16:27 | <Keith> | How is update rc.d annoying? |
| 16:27 | <@pparadis> | it has no business on my server |
| 16:27 | <Keith> | Can't you just use stuff like update rc.d del service or update rc.d add service? |
| 16:28 | <@pparadis> | how about not putting stuff out that goes and breaks other stuff? |
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| 16:28 | <Yaakov> | grub |
| 16:28 | <Keith> | In fact, I have never figured out how to make a service in the /etc/init.d directory of ubuntu/debian systems start/not start on boot. For instance, and I don't know why you'd do it, but what if you wanted ssh to manually be executed. |
| 16:28 | <Keith> | I know how to do it in Gentoo and Arch. |
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| 16:28 | <Keith> | And on Arch Linux you edit the deamons area of /etc/rc.conf. |
| 16:29 | <swaj> | that's one of the things I like about arch |
| 16:29 | <Keith> | And the order of what you put in doesn't seem to be important. You could have ssh start before something, or have ssh start after something. Isn't Debian/Ubuntu's init system such that if you don't have stuff start in a particular order you'll find yourself..well.. |
| 16:29 | <@pparadis> | you'll like it until something actually breaks after you upgrade your system |
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| 16:30 | <Daevien> | archlinux pissed me off by breaking X by doing a major version upgrade without warning that like everything didn't work with it |
| 16:30 | <HoopyCat> | swaj: agree with regards ubuntu on the desktop. my desktop machine must work, and i really don't care if my codez are ~6 months out of date :-) |
| 16:30 | <Keith> | Now how about a server? |
| 16:30 | <swaj> | ubuntu is a fine server |
| 16:30 | <dajhorn> | Maverick will ship with the new 1.9 xorg ABI. Let's see whether their end users will notice. |
| 16:30 | <swaj> | I use it exclusively right now.... I've just been looking at arch |
| 16:31 | * | Keith is curious if Linode deploys the server version of Ubuntu? You must. But the interesting thing is that I hear a lot more about Ubuntu as a desktop platform. I do not hear too often of anyone running it as a server OS. |
| 16:31 | <@pparadis> | i really don't have many issues with ubuntu on the server, still would use debian where possible, though... especially with squeeze coming out soon(ish) |
| 16:31 | <Yaakov> | Under Debian, look for /etc/defualt/ |
| 16:31 | <Keith> | And what news I can find about Ubuntu server comes from the main ubuntu news pages. |
| 16:31 | <Keith> | They say it's stable, great, etc. |
| 16:31 | <Yaakov> | er... /etc/default |
| 16:31 | <HoopyCat> | pparadis: with regards arch: i probably wouldn't use it in a situation where ubuntu LTS or even ubuntu sixmonthly cuts the mustard, but if i end up in a situation where i'm going to have to compile from source because the task is that bleeding-edge... |
| 16:32 | <Yaakov> | lllgrfroobgnups |
| 16:32 | <kenichi> | isn't debian /etc/rcX.d/ based ? just add/rm/edit the symlinks. |
| 16:32 | <HoopyCat> | pparadis: ... i'd have to seriously consider it :-) |
| 16:32 | <Keith> | Isn't there a program to handel that? |
| 16:32 | * | Keith hates, editing symlinks witha passion and refuses to do so. |
| 16:32 | <@pparadis> | HoopyCat: sure i see where you're going, but i wouldn't use arch just because i needed one thing. i'd much rather sleep easy about the system as a whole and just deal with maintaining that one thing myself. |
| 16:32 | <Keith> | The last time I tried that, I broke a service. |
| 16:32 | <Yaakov> | There is a program to bach it. |
| 16:33 | <Daevien> | i run debian on my linodes, ubuntu on my home server just cause it made things a bit easier and i didn't want to have to redo it for a long time since it mostly is a media server. i prefer debian really over ubuntu, upstart annoys me for one thing |
| 16:33 | * | kenichi guesses he's a bit too unixy |
| 16:33 | <Keith> | And yet you se Ubuntu as a home server? |
| 16:33 | <Keith> | use |
| 16:33 | <swaj> | I will admit the /etc/default crap pissed me off the other day. Was trying to edit the startup options for oidentd in the init.d folder, only to find that all my options were being overwritten by the crap in /etc/default |
| 16:34 | <Daevien> | it just downloads tuff ands ervers stuff to the network, didn't want to have tupgrade stuff for a while and debian squeeze was still a ways away when i did it, ubu 10 had just come out |
| 16:34 | <Keith> | It was? |
| 16:34 | <Keith> | Wwo |
| 16:34 | <@caker> | Interesting. Tell me more. |
| 16:34 | <HoopyCat> | pparadis: the best example i can come up with in a pinch is some sort of front-end load balancer kinda thing, where you've got a few of them and they have to run some sort of whizbangrd that is just geriatric in the ubuntu |
| 16:34 | <Daevien> | doing that home server again i wouldn't do ubuntu prob :p |
| 16:34 | * | Keith considers installing Oidentd in his Ubuntu system..although I'm wondering if taht will auto-start on his system? |
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| 16:34 | <HoopyCat> | pparadis: or maybe, i dunno, one of those nosql things that the fartboxers put out |
| 16:35 | <HoopyCat> | pparadis: but even in that case, you now have black sheep servers running an unusual distro... ugh, brain hurt |
| 16:35 | <swaj> | oidentd will work fine on ubuntu, but it doesn't run on ipv6 by default... you have to tweak its arguments. But don't mess with /etc/init.d/oidentd to add those arguments, because they just get ignored in favor of /etc/default crap |
| 16:35 | <HoopyCat> | "just build a frickin' PPA" |
| 16:36 | <Keith> | I wouldn't know how to edit the init script properly without breaking it. |
| 16:36 | <@pparadis> | HoopyCat: fartboxers++ |
| 16:36 | <Keith> | I know Gentoo's init script format, not Debian/Ubuntu. |
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| 16:36 | <swaj> | HoopyCat: I love MongoDB :P Death to MySQL! |
| 16:36 | <@pparadis> | swaj: http://dbmsmusings.blogspot.com/2010/08/problems-with-acid-and-how-to-fix-them.html |
| 16:36 | <Keith> | I only know how to handel the package managers of Debian/Ubuntu well, not how to troubleshoot a failing init.d script from starting etc. I picked Ubuntu also because I have some experience with it. In the case of a severe breakage thoguh.. |
| 16:36 | <@pparadis> | about that :) |
| 16:36 | <swaj> | Keith: the top of the init script has a variable you can add arguments to. It's meant to be edited. |
| 16:36 | <@pparadis> | although </3 mysql |
| 16:37 | * | Keith admits if Ubuntu were to die right now and all the init scripts blew up, I wouldn't know what to do with it. And I here that Ubuntu is based off of Debian Cid and that most people don't recommend Unstable Debian for that type of use as a server. |
| 16:37 | <Yaakov> | I usually can scarlatti my scripts OK. |
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| 16:39 | <Keith> | What I'm curious about is how the DHCP server that hands out these IPs with your first IP that is..how it manages to re-deploy it. I have never seen a DHCP server where there isn't a lease time on the IP. |
| 16:39 | <@Perihelion> | I can usually gashmoigle. |
| 16:39 | * | Keith is refering to Linode.com's DHCP servers that re-alocates that IP. That is interesting. |
| 16:40 | <Keith> | I love MySQL myself. |
| 16:40 | <Keith> | :) |
| 16:42 | <Yaakov> | Keith: I cannot understand your DHCP question at all. |
| 16:42 | <Keith> | Okay..I'll try to re-ask. |
| 16:42 | <Keith> | :) |
| 16:42 | <A-KO> | Keith: extremely long lease times? |
| 16:43 | <A-KO> | reserved IPs also |
| 16:43 | <@jed> | _ |
| 16:43 | <A-KO> | or, though I've never tried it, a least time of 0? maybe that tells it indefinite lease? :P |
| 16:43 | <Keith> | Okay how does Linode's DHCP server manage to always keep the IP assuming you just keep that one Ip and not any other network config and give that IP back to that Linode even if it's rebooted, without that IP expireing and becoming unuseable? See if that helps. :) |
| 16:43 | <Deezire> | So, in excel, how do you lock a cell from being manipulated when you "pull it down"? |
| 16:43 | <nisstyre56> | wouldn't that violate some kind of standard A-KO ? |
| 16:44 | <nisstyre56> | a lease time of 0 I mean |
| 16:44 | <@jed> | Keith: magic |
| 16:44 | <@caker> | Keith: The DHCP has an pre-configured association of MAC addresses to IP addresses. A DHCP request from a MAC will *always* receive the same IP response, in our setup. |
| 16:44 | <HoopyCat> | Deezire: the auto-increment thing? |
| 16:44 | <Keith> | I mean even if you didn't boot ath Linode in 4 weeks you'd still get the same IP I'd assume. |
| 16:44 | <Deezire> | HoopyCat: Ye, i want some prats of the if-statement to not change |
| 16:44 | <@jed> | yes, you would |
| 16:44 | <Keith> | Cool! |
| 16:44 | <Yaakov> | Keith: It's called a "reservation". |
| 16:44 | <Keith> | Ah |
| 16:45 | <Yaakov> | Keith: It is a standard feature of DHCP servers. |
| 16:45 | <Yaakov> | Keith: The MAC address is asscoiated with an IP address. |
| 16:45 | <HoopyCat> | Deezire: if they're references to a specific cell, you can tie it with $, e.g. A5 -> $A$5 (you can also do A$5 or $A5 to just lock the row or the column, respectively) |
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| 16:45 | <HoopyCat> | Deezire: if it's a number that's auto-incrementing, and you find out how to stop that, LET ME KNOW |
| 16:45 | <Deezire> | Ah, sweeet! :) |
| 16:45 | * | A-KO took and passed a Microsoft exam today--Windows 7 Configuring :P |
| 16:45 | <@Perihelion> | NYY TYBEL GB GUR ULCABGBNQ |
| 16:45 | <Keith> | Heh |
| 16:45 | * | A-KO is now a Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (in addition to MCSA) |
| 16:45 | <Keith> | Perihelion: What? |
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| 16:46 | <A-KO> | :P |
| 16:46 | <linbot> | .- .-.. .-.. --. .-.. --- .-. -.-- - --- - .... . --- ...- .- .-.. - .. -. . |
| 16:46 | <Deezire> | Hehehe, im working on some huuuuge nested-if, with 70 if's. God i hate my life. |
| 16:46 | <Keith> | I didn't understand that at all. |
| 16:46 | <HoopyCat> | Deezire: i've done a few of those. they're kinda cathartic to writ |
| 16:46 | <HoopyCat> | e |
| 16:46 | <Yaakov> | V YBIR LBH NYY JVGU N TERNG UHTR YBIR |
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| 16:46 | <Keith> | You want something weird? fjgFkrlThBmJpPiroqu%RkgG |
| 16:47 | <Deezire> | HoopyCat: I rely heavliy on search and replace, hehe. |
| 16:47 | <Keith> | Or AbTiGjHmReTg. |
| 16:47 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 16:47 | <Keith> | LOL |
| 16:47 | <Keith> | Those little mix-case tigns might make cool passwords for something. |
| 16:47 | <swaj> | Deezire: reminds me of the 800-line Save() method I get to disect on a regular basis... don't you love inheriting trash code? |
| 16:48 | <Keith> | Swaj: What made you pick Ubuntu for your primary Linode deployment? That's interesting |
| 16:48 | <@caker> | Keith: seriously? |
| 16:48 | * | dr_jkl gave up on ubuntu after a fresh deployment ate her data |
| 16:49 | <swaj> | Keith: it's what I know. I use ubuntu at home for my desktop OS, and I've very much at home in it. |
| 16:49 | <Deezire> | swaj: Suicide has been a viable option for the last 4 hours! |
| 16:49 | <Keith> | You could have chosen if not hundreds of various Linux operating systems. Gentoo, with hit's Portage-and that concept is cool, although Gentoo is now at Gentoo10, and Linode still gives a 2008.0 deployment that I bet needs loads of updates from a Gentoo deployment. |
| 16:49 | <linbot> | nyy tybel gb gur ulcabgbnq |
| 16:49 | <Keith> | In fact, I don't think the 2008.0 profile is supported anymore on Gentoo. |
| 16:50 | <Keith> | If it is it's depricated. |
| 16:50 | <swaj> | I'm not interested in Gentoo. I tried it once and didn't like the emerge system. It's been a long time, but it was buggy when I used it, and overly difficult to install. I know most people will agru that emerge is what makes Gentoo great, but it's just a pain in the ass, imo. |
| 16:50 | <dr_jkl> | gentoo is the ultimate text-based video game. |
| 16:50 | <Keith> | And it got in the way, didn't it. |
| 16:51 | <dr_jkl> | if you win, you get to use the Internet. |
| 16:51 | <@Perihelion> | \o/ |
| 16:51 | * | Keith notices how Emerge stays in a terminal-reqquireing a lot of screens and such to be open. |
| 16:51 | <swaj> | not to mention, I'm not one of those people that believes there are gigantic advantages to having everything source-built. It takes too damn long to install something. Pre-compiled binaries work fine most of the time. |
| 16:51 | <Keith> | Is Gentoo really a text-based video? I've never seen one! |
| 16:51 | * | Keith grins |
| 16:51 | <@Perihelion> | . |
| 16:52 | <dr_jkl> | .. |
| 16:52 | <swaj> | granted, the last time I touched gentoo was like 2005 or something, so I don't know what it's like now. |
| 16:52 | * | linbot grabs a beer, deploys the emergency slide, and steals Perihelion's car to get home |
| 16:52 | <@pparadis> | but Perihelion doesn't have a car... |
| 16:52 | <@Perihelion> | I don't have a car. |
| 16:52 | <@pparadis> | pwnt |
| 16:52 | <@Perihelion> | Someone is a noob. |
| 16:53 | * | linbot ghost-rides the ghost-whip |
| 16:53 | <Keith> | Furhrhrhhr!/me thinks Linbot is using a Node. |
| 16:53 | <Keith> | Oops |
| 16:53 | <swaj> | nah, I'm pretty sure it takes an entire 32 GB of ram and 4 procs to run linbot. It's hardcore |
| 16:53 | <Keith> | Linbot must be running off a pretty cute Node I'd bet |
| 16:53 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 16:53 | <Keith> | LOL |
| 16:54 | <Keith> | "Must" is not a valid command. |
| 16:54 | <swaj> | linbot is so hardcore, that it's almost like someone is controlling it. The AI is *that* good |
| 16:55 | <swaj> | though it has some bugs... like attempting to steal cars that don't exist. |
| 16:55 | <Keith> | Oh yeah? |
| 16:55 | <dr_jkl> | "your linode has averaged <x> of one host cpu for this month". at what value of x will i start attracting attention from the powers that be? |
| 16:55 | <Keith> | Let's find out if it's "controled." |
| 16:55 | * | Keith attempts to give Linbot a hug. |
| 16:56 | <Keith> | Not sure. |
| 16:56 | <@caker> | Keith: please, please please, try to keep a good signal to noise ratio in this channel, ok? |
| 16:56 | <Keith> | It's not like Linode will jump at you if you use 2 or 3 percent of a CPU, will it? I mean.. |
| 16:56 | <Keith> | You can't always have a perfectly idle Linode. |
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| 16:57 | <@caker> | Keith: you're constantly blabbering on, and it's quite annoying, to be honest |
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| 16:57 | * | dr_jkl adjusts the channel's squelch knob |
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| 16:58 | <HoopyCat> | dr_jkl: 401% |
| 16:59 | <dr_jkl> | for serious? i can average 400% and still be fine? :/ |
| 16:59 | <swaj> | is there a debian roadmap anywhere? my google skills are failing |
| 17:00 | <dr_jkl> | !avail-he |
| 17:00 | <linbot> | dr_jkl: Fremont512 - 33, Fremont768 - 61, Fremont1024 - 25, Fremont1536 - 25, Fremont2048 - 10, Fremont4096 - 1, Fremont8192 - 1, Fremont12288 - 1, Fremont16384 - 0 |
| 17:00 | <HoopyCat> | dr_jkl: CPU manna falls from the sky at a constant rate. if noone else is collecting the manna, it should work out OK. |
| 17:01 | * | dr_jkl nods. "i was more concerned if there was a specific point at which i'd be considered abusive. my intent is to run an oa server (as needed) for private games between like six people. i've done some inital load testing with it and it doesn't seem to put a ton of stress on the machine." |
| 17:02 | <@jed> | dr_jkl: overeaters anonymous? |
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| 17:02 | <dr_jkl> | jed: openarena |
| 17:02 | <@jed> | ah |
| 17:02 | <swaj> | never realized debian hosted it's official IRC on OFTC, cool. |
| 17:02 | <HoopyCat> | dr_jkl: if you're using it for productive ends, it's probably fine. running tromboning@home or whatever the kids are using these days to find aliens isn't very nice, tho. |
| 17:02 | <dr_jkl> | jed: i found nothing in the terms of service which would prohibit it :) |
| 17:02 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:02 | <dr_jkl> | LOL tromboning@home |
| 17:03 | <@jed> | dr_jkl: I'm aware of a customer who ran five game servers on a 360 |
| 17:03 | <@jed> | I'm sure your Quake server will be fine |
| 17:03 | <dr_jkl> | HoopyCat: no, just an on-demand game server for private games between partners&friends. :) |
| 17:04 | <dr_jkl> | jed: considering all i use my 512 for is e-mail testing and diagnostics, i thought it a fitting use of all my unused bandwidth :D |
| 17:04 | <@jed> | indeed |
| 17:04 | <@mikegrb> | roflz |
| 17:04 | <swaj> | man I don't even touch my bandwidth limit, rofl |
| 17:04 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:04 | <dr_jkl> | when i use less than 75mb of traffic a month, lol |
| 17:05 | <dr_jkl> | hey jed, you ever hear of eyeos? |
| 17:06 | <dr_jkl> | i think it's pretty neat. http://eyeos.org/ |
| 17:06 | <HoopyCat> | dr_jkl: for those about to rock, we salute you |
| 17:06 | <@jed> | I've not, but I've seen others build something similar |
| 17:07 | <HoopyCat> | "On March 11, Dubois attached an electrical clamp to one nipple while another student attached another clamp to the other. A third student plugged in the cord." |
| 17:07 | <HoopyCat> | !facepalm |
| 17:07 | <linbot> | http://picardfacepalm.com/ ... |
| 17:07 | <Yaakov> | The number of UDP probes from the Internet is truly astonishing. |
| 17:07 | <HoopyCat> | !FACEPALM |
| 17:07 | <linbot> | http://picardfacepalm.com/ ... |
| 17:07 | <Battousai> | udp probed urmom, etc. |
| 17:07 | <swaj> | billing question: I'm moving, and my billing address will obviously change. If I just update my contact info in the Linode manager, will that be sufficient? |
| 17:07 | <HoopyCat> | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20015310-504083.html |
| 17:07 | <Yaakov> | I get at least 50 a minute, all unique IPs, to a dynamic IP on a cable modem. |
| 17:08 | <HoopyCat> | swaj: yup, the ninjas will redeploy automatically |
| 17:08 | <sammcd> | Any suggestions on which is better for email? SSL or TLS? |
| 17:08 | <Yaakov> | Port 11232 is very popular today. |
| 17:10 | <swaj> | sammcd: I personally like TLS, given that it's an open standard, but honestly there's not really any difference |
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| 17:19 | <HoopyCat> | We registered with a DOCSIS 1.1 config file! |
| 17:19 | <Battousai> | who still uses that? |
| 17:19 | <HoopyCat> | my upstream, at least as of last renegotiation (Wed Sep 01 17:17:32 2010) |
| 17:20 | <@jed> | HoopyCat: charter? |
| 17:20 | <HoopyCat> | THINGS YOU HAVE GOT: 1) To be fscking kidding me |
| 17:20 | <HoopyCat> | jed: twc roadrunner |
| 17:20 | <@jed> | ah, close enough |
| 17:20 | <Battousai> | actually my rental house at the outer banks had a docsis 1.1 modem/router |
| 17:20 | <Battousai> | which was indeed charter |
| 17:20 | <HoopyCat> | my modem is docsis 2.0, at least. so, eventually, they might someday be able to perhaps consider an upgrade |
| 17:21 | <A-KO> | I'm still waiting for Comcast to move me to docsis 3.0 |
| 17:21 | * | Battousai rocks the docsis 3.0 |
| 17:21 | <A-KO> | assholes won't move us since FIOS isn't in the area yet |
| 17:22 | <HoopyCat> | things from which TWC derives no fear: the ILEC |
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| 17:25 | <Randall> | Has something happened? My linode as just suddenly powered off. I get "lassie intiated restart" and I tried booting it, and both of them are 'waiting on host'. |
| 17:25 | <Randall> | I'm in NJ. |
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| 17:25 | <@jed> | Randall: host ate the pillow, boot jobs issued - they go one at a time, so it's on the way for you |
| 17:26 | <@jed> | we had to bounce it, check your tickets |
| 17:26 | <Battousai> | ate the pillow? |
| 17:26 | <@Perihelion> | Nomz. |
| 17:26 | <Randall> | Ah, see a ticket in email. |
| 17:26 | <HoopyCat> | Battousai: if you're dreaming that you're eating a really huge marshmallow, odds are good you're eating the pillow. it's like dreaming that you're urinating. |
| 17:27 | <@pparadis> | you eat the urine?!! |
| 17:27 | <@Perihelion> | . |
| 17:27 | <dr_jkl> | . |
| 17:27 | <Battousai> | so if i dream that i'm eating a pillow, am i actually eating a marshmallow? |
| 17:27 | <@Perihelion> | Yes |
| 17:27 | <@jed> | Randall: there's a chance I might configure migrations for everybody based on what caused it to fail, and I'm watching it intently |
| 17:27 | <@jed> | so, worst case, a quick 5 - 10 minute migration later tonight |
| 17:27 | <Battousai> | they give you that power? |
| 17:27 | <@Perihelion> | I HAVE THE POWERRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 17:27 | <HoopyCat> | Ran 69 tests in 565.658s |
| 17:27 | <HoopyCat> | OK |
| 17:28 | <HoopyCat> | COMMIT! |
| 17:28 | <dr_jkl> | i have to say |
| 17:28 | <@Perihelion> | Insert joke that I can't make here |
| 17:28 | <dr_jkl> | linode = best vps company i've ever been with |
| 17:28 | <@Perihelion> | <3 |
| 17:28 | <Randall> | Yeah, I'm pretty impressed. |
| 17:28 | <Randall> | By the way, while I'm here -- |
| 17:29 | <sirpengi> | dr_jkl: and how many have you had before? |
| 17:29 | <dr_jkl> | sigh. i tpoed 'sperm' as 'sperl' because 'perl' is in finger memory. :/ |
| 17:29 | <swaj> | jed, can you guys do live migrations? Let's say you need to do maintenance on a host machine for example... could you migrate a live VM to another host temporarily? XenMotion I think is the marketting term |
| 17:29 | <dr_jkl> | sirpengi: i've been with many other companies before. |
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| 17:29 | <@jed> | swaj: no, and we have no plans to roll it out |
| 17:29 | <@jed> | generally it Makes Things Worse |
| 17:29 | <Randall> | I would happily trade down RAM and quota and so forth in exchange for more storage. There any options for that? |
| 17:29 | <sirpengi> | dr_jkl: we need a number |
| 17:29 | <sirpengi> | and names |
| 17:29 | <sirpengi> | or else this relationship isn't going to work out |
| 17:29 | <Randall> | I never get *near* my quotas on transfer, but I use up my storage pretty routinely. |
| 17:30 | <Randall> | (Except that one time when I accidentally reddited my linode) |
| 17:30 | <@jed> | was that the colors? |
| 17:30 | <Randall> | Oh, no, that was ... I was hosting an archive of every image ever linked on IRC, I think. |
| 17:31 | <Randall> | On any network I was on. |
| 17:31 | <@jed> | heh |
| 17:31 | <Randall> | I was just making it for my own amusement but the URL got out. |
| 17:31 | <@jed> | mibbit does that now, grabbing the pics that are linked |
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| 17:31 | <Randall> | I actually realize I haven't checked my quotas recently and just now I was only looking at september. I might get near the transfers. |
| 17:31 | <@jed> | at any rate - we can't custom a plan like that, I'm afraid |
| 17:31 | <Randall> | *nod* |
| 17:31 | <Randall> | For a while, wasn't there an option to just add storage? |
| 17:31 | <@jed> | best I could offer is extras |
| 17:31 | <@jed> | yeah: |
| 17:31 | <@Perihelion> | There still is |
| 17:31 | <@jed> | !extras |
| 17:32 | <linbot> | Available Add-ons: Disk: $ 2 per 1GB/month. RAM: $ 5 per 90MB/month. Transfer: $ 10 per 100GB/month. IP: $ 1 per IP/month. To add extras: https://www.linode.com/members/linode/extras.cfm |
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| 17:32 | <Randall> | Okay, cool. Hmm. |
| 17:32 | <@jed> | I won't bullshit you, though, it ends up more cost-effective to just upgrade and enjoy the extra page cache |
| 17:32 | <dr_jkl> | sirpengi: prohosters/carpathia, spry/vpslink, serverpronto, slicehost, eapps, solarvps, johncompanies pair. |
| 17:32 | <dr_jkl> | s/pair/and pair |
| 17:32 | * | Perihelion hisses at dr_jkl |
| 17:32 | <@Perihelion> | Evil words. |
| 17:32 | <dr_jkl> | i agree. |
| 17:32 | <dr_jkl> | t |
| 17:32 | <Randall> | Oh, I had missed the extras tab a minute ago before asking. |
| 17:33 | * | Randall reads through |
| 17:33 | <@Perihelion> | :> |
| 17:33 | <dr_jkl> | linode is the creamiest part of the crop. ^.^; |
| 17:33 | <Randall> | Wait just a damn second. |
| 17:33 | <@Perihelion> | <3 |
| 17:33 | <sirpengi> | linode is my first and only VPS |
| 17:33 | <@Perihelion> | We're honored to be your first <3 |
| 17:33 | <sirpengi> | I saved myself for #linode |
| 17:33 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:33 | <dr_jkl> | loL! |
| 17:33 | <Randall> | The servers go down, which leads to me going to my linode config page. Which makes me think about my linode config. Which makes me think "Hey, I should buy more services." |
| 17:33 | <Randall> | ... did you do this on purpose? |
| 17:33 | <@Perihelion> | No >_> |
| 17:33 | <@jed> | Randall: you're on to us! |
| 17:33 | <@pparadis> | Randall: bwahaha |
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| 17:34 | <HoopyCat> | Randall: hard drives are any two of fast, big, and hotswappable... linode picked "fast" and "hotswappable". :-) |
| 17:34 | <sirpengi> | you guys better not break up with me |
| 17:35 | <sirpengi> | I'll never be able to trust another VPS |
| 17:35 | <@Perihelion> | We love you long time |
| 17:35 | <mdcollins> | As long as you are paying.. |
| 17:35 | <sirpengi> | oh |
| 17:35 | <sirpengi> | I see how it is |
| 17:35 | <@Perihelion> | You knew what this was baby |
| 17:35 | <dr_jkl> | Perihelion: i'd be glad to trade you some arvin rifles... never been fired, and only dropped once... |
| 17:35 | <Randall> | HoopyCat: It's just funny how I have two total-personal-use servers -- one which has occasional downtime and is maintained by my friend, and has terabyte drives added whenever it needs space |
| 17:35 | <@Perihelion> | -_- |
| 17:35 | <Randall> | but is down sometimes |
| 17:36 | <Randall> | and the other is my linode, with 16 GB |
| 17:36 | <Randall> | they're just such different worlds :) |
| 17:37 | <@Perihelion> | ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNO NODE |
| 17:37 | <Randall> | and I feel like I'd be happy with something in between ... |
| 17:37 | <Randall> | ah well |
| 17:37 | <Randall> | Yeah, you're right, the extras suck :P |
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| 17:38 | <@Perihelion> | Yeah it's really just better to upgrade |
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| 17:39 | <dr_jkl> | turn off your maku before leaving the room; it saves energy! |
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| 17:42 | <Yaakov> | port upgrade outdated |
| 17:42 | <Randall> | There we go. |
| 17:42 | <@Perihelion> | :> |
| 17:42 | <Yaakov> | Ook. |
| 17:42 | <@Perihelion> | Phil just called you a monkey. |
| 17:42 | <@pparadis> | but in a good way. |
| 17:42 | <@Perihelion> | Debatable |
| 17:42 | <@pparadis> | like "awww yeah" |
| 17:42 | <HoopyCat> | Randall: now take that big stack o' TB drives and add 50 VMs with apache+wordpress default installations ... :-) |
| 17:43 | <@pparadis> | ;-; |
| 17:43 | <@Perihelion> | That's the devil talkin right there |
| 17:43 | <@pparadis> | sho nuff |
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| 17:44 | <RandallM> | Annnnnd it's unresponsive again ... |
| 17:45 | <HoopyCat> | aww man, got a rejection letter from NASA |
| 17:45 | <RandallM> | But this time it doesn't appear to have been shut down. |
| 17:45 | <RandallM> | HoopyCat: :( |
| 17:45 | <RandallM> | What were you applying for? |
| 17:45 | <@Perihelion> | Being looked into |
| 17:45 | <@pparadis> | RandallM: we're on it |
| 17:46 | <HoopyCat> | RandallM: the STS-133 Tweetup... no-expenses-paid trip to watch STS-133's launch get scrubbed at the last moment, probably with some appetizers or something |
| 17:46 | * | RandallM shouldn't have stored a temporary password in my IRC logs is all ... and the backup servers aren't running this week ... |
| 17:46 | <HoopyCat> | i am, however, on the backup crew, in case someone gets german measels or something |
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| 17:47 | <sirpengi> | sounds like time to take matters into your own hands |
| 17:47 | <Yaakov> | HoopyCat: That's Rubella to you, you politcally incorrect minger! |
| 17:47 | <@Perihelion> | Don't be mingey |
| 17:48 | <Yaakov> | I LOVE YOU ALL WITH A GREAT HUGE LOVE |
| 17:48 | <@Perihelion> | <3 |
| 17:48 | <CyZooNiC> | Is anyone experiencing packet loss in atlanta? |
| 17:48 | <@Perihelion> | Seems alright to me |
| 17:49 | <Yaakov> | !mtr-newark atlanta1.linode.com |
| 17:49 | <HoopyCat> | CyZooNiC: looks clean as a baby from here |
| 17:49 | <linbot> | Yaakov: [mtr] atlanta1.linode.com: 13 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 22.2ms |
| 17:49 | <Yaakov> | HoopyCat: A baby that's been cleaned, I hope. |
| 17:49 | <CyZooNiC> | !mtr-newark atlanta1.linode.com |
| 17:49 | <@jed> | RandallM: as soon as I updated the ticket, it dropped again |
| 17:49 | <linbot> | CyZooNiC: [mtr] atlanta1.linode.com: 13 hops, 207.99.1.13: 20.0%/0.8ms |
| 17:49 | <@jed> | I'm now coordinating moving everybody off by hand, stand by for an update |
| 17:50 | <Yaakov> | 20% loss on one of the hops |
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| 17:50 | <Keith> | I've got an odd Apache server issue. I've installed ISPConfig on my server, and now when I try to access my properly-configured virtula host of Keithent.us, you receive HTTP403. |
| 17:50 | <HoopyCat> | Yaakov: that's within newark, so probably just blurk |
| 17:51 | <Yaakov> | I so dislike misleading blurk. I think it should be illegal. |
| 17:51 | <Keith> | I also checked all permissions-none of the File system thigns are wrong. Apache's logs suggest a "web server" configuration issue-but I do not know where. I don't know what extention Apache uses when accessing the / directory-but it isn't displaying the aslh directory or anything like that. |
| 17:52 | <RandallM> | jed: Thank you. |
| 17:54 | <Yaakov> | I hope that upgrading outdate ports doesn't break things. |
| 17:54 | <Yaakov> | outdated, too. |
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| 17:55 | <Deezire> | Keith: have you checked your logs? |
| 17:55 | <Deezire> | Double checked that it is running? |
| 17:55 | <sirpengi> | Keith: the actual message of the apache error would be helpful |
| 17:56 | <BlakeG> | I'll look it up. I am the one helping him with ISPConfig. |
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| 17:58 | <BlakeG> | Here is the error from the log set in the keithnet.us virtual host: [Wed Sep 01 17:55:22 2010] [error] [client 96.30.148.97] client denied by server configuration: /srv/www/keithnet.us/public_html/ |
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| 17:58 | <Deezire> | then it's not correct configured |
| 17:58 | <sirpengi> | sound like it was setup that way |
| 17:58 | <sirpengi> | *set up |
| 17:58 | <Deezire> | check under /etc/apache2/sites-enabeled/ispconfig<something? |
| 17:58 | <sirpengi> | allows/deny funk |
| 17:58 | <Deezire> | check for deny, allow |
| 17:59 | <Deezire> | And add your ipaddress where it feels appropriate |
| 17:59 | <Deezire> | Your own ip-address, then one you are accessing ispconfig from. |
| 18:00 | <Yaakov> | You know, watching big globs of stuff compile is like watching unimaginable hours of effort scroll by. The sum of the effort which all these messages represents is stunning. |
| 18:00 | <BlakeG> | That I am aware, all of the virtual hosts are correctly configured. I've looked at the enabled ones and the ones in /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 18:00 | <BlakeG> | What I don't know is what ISPConfig modifies when you install it. |
| 18:03 | <sirpengi> | well, whatever it is it has to be in those sites-enabled configs |
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| 18:04 | <Deezire> | Yaakov: When you put it like that, you make me want to start compiling shitz! |
| 18:04 | <BlakeG> | This is the information from the access log, perhaps it will be mre helpful. 96.30.148.97 - - [01/Sep/2010:17:55:22 -0400] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 403 428 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.3 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/6.0.472.51 Safari/534.3" |
| 18:05 | <sirpengi> | BlakeG: no, the actual config for the virtualhost in question would be more helpful |
| 18:05 | <Deezire> | BlakeG: error_log is more interesting |
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| 18:05 | <BlakeG> | Let me look that up. |
| 18:05 | <Deezire> | check /etc/apache2/sites-enabeled and find a file called ispconfig or something. Edit it and add your ipaddress to the allow-statement |
| 18:06 | <sirpengi> | yeah, I'm interested to see if there are any lines in error_log when you restart apache |
| 18:06 | <RandallM> | jed: It tells me my linode is still running, by the way -- should I send a restart, or will that happen on its own when you finish? |
| 18:06 | <@jed> | it's going to catch up soon |
| 18:06 | <@jed> | you don't have to enter any jobs :) |
| 18:06 | <RandallM> | I assume it is in actuality off. |
| 18:06 | <BlakeG> | There aren't errors in the log when I restart apache. The ISPConfig works when I go to its default address, though, when I go to keithnet.us, that won't work. |
| 18:07 | <@jed> | well ... for varying definitions of 'off' :) |
| 18:07 | <@jed> | it just doesn't exist! |
| 18:07 | <@jed> | but yeah, once we get this swap done it's going to sync up |
| 18:07 | <RandallM> | Right :) |
| 18:07 | <RandallM> | Well, I am making dinner anyway, so no rush. |
| 18:07 | <@jed> | we leave it 'Running' so the startup code knows which Linodes to boot |
| 18:07 | <Yaakov> | RandallM: Perhaps you should grow the food to maximize the available time. |
| 18:08 | <RandallM> | Or freeze the people waiting to eat it ... |
| 18:08 | <Yaakov> | RandallM: There are so many ways to do this. |
| 18:08 | <Deezire> | Or invent how to freeze people? |
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| 18:09 | <Yaakov> | Freezing people is easy. The thawing part is tough. |
| 18:09 | <HoopyCat> | dear air conditioning vent: MOAR |
| 18:09 | * | RandallM pages through this Bittman book to try to learn how to make beef steaks good. |
| 18:10 | <BlakeG> | I'll be back in a few minutes, folks. |
| 18:10 | <Yaakov> | RandallM: How do you plan on cooking them? |
| 18:10 | <Deezire> | HoopyCat: Hah, we have sub-5 celcius outside now :-) |
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| 18:13 | <Randall> | Oops, that wasn't in screen. |
| 18:13 | <Randall> | And wireless is spotty. |
| 18:13 | <Randall> | I'm ideally going to figure out a way to do them in a skillet on the stove, since the oven is a bit dicey/smokey at high temperatures. |
| 18:14 | <Yaakov> | Oh, well that's easy! |
| 18:14 | <Yaakov> | Is it good meat? |
| 18:14 | <HoopyCat> | urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer> |
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| 18:14 | * | HoopyCat slams head on desk |
| 18:15 | <HoopyCat> | that said, i think i've got a new personal record for length of traceback |
| 18:15 | <Randall> | Yaakov: Yes. |
| 18:15 | <Randall> | Fairly thin sirloin. |
| 18:15 | <Randall> | Like 3/4"? |
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| 18:15 | <Randall> | You have advice? |
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| 18:15 | <Yaakov> | RandallM: In general, pan frying steak is straightforward. If it is a high quality meat, salt and pepper are all you need. |
| 18:15 | <Randall> | \o/ |
| 18:15 | <sirpengi> | peer strikes again |
| 18:15 | <Yaakov> | Randall: Do you like garlic? |
| 18:15 | <randallman> | pan fried steak |
| 18:15 | <randallman> | yum! |
| 18:15 | <Randall> | I've been doing these thick pork steaks in wine recently and that's been good. |
| 18:16 | <randallman> | a.k.a. chicken fried steak :) |
| 18:16 | <Randall> | Yaakov: It's okay! |
| 18:16 | <Randall> | Context-dependent, I guess :) |
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| 18:16 | <@Perihelion> | I have some crap from omaha steaks that I need to deal with |
| 18:16 | <@Perihelion> | I may do that this weekend |
| 18:16 | <Yaakov> | Well, it isn't needed. Basically, put a couple of teaspoons of a good oil in the pan (olive is good but it has a low smoke point so watch the heat) |
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| 18:17 | <@Perihelion> | It's all about montreal seasoning |
| 18:17 | <Yaakov> | Then fry the steak on one side, with a medium heat, without moving it until it is well browned. |
| 18:17 | <Randall> | Yaakov: Sounds good :) |
| 18:17 | <Randall> | That's about what my default plan was. |
| 18:18 | <Yaakov> | The flip it, and lower the heat, and cook it until the other side is brown and the internal temperature is at least 125°F. |
| 18:18 | <Randall> | What I've been doing with the pork steaks is searing them in a little oil for like 30 seconds on each side, then pouring in a cup of wine |
| 18:18 | <Randall> | and letting that boil away as they cook |
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| 18:18 | <Randall> | and it's delicious |
| 18:18 | <Randall> | okay, that sounds good ... |
| 18:18 | <Yaakov> | Simple is good. |
| 18:19 | <HoopyCat> | i recommend going for a canola, or perhaps even a peanut oil |
| 18:19 | <Yaakov> | Fresh ground pepper is light-years distant in taste from sutff that's been sitting around, too. |
| 18:19 | <Randall> | Huh. Okay, I can do either of those. |
| 18:19 | <Randall> | I've been doing EVOO for most of this. |
| 18:19 | <Randall> | I'll try canola. |
| 18:19 | <Yaakov> | I like an olive peanut blend. |
| 18:19 | <dKingston> | Randall: your nick |
| 18:19 | <Yaakov> | Because the peanut raises the smoke point and the olive raises the quality. |
| 18:19 | <dKingston> | is familiar |
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| 18:20 | <HoopyCat> | high smokepoint is generally more important than oil flavor, but yeah... a blend would do too |
| 18:20 | <Daevien> | dKingston: you are |
| 18:20 | <Yaakov> | Randall: It you like garlic, a fresh clove rubbed on the steak is good. |
| 18:20 | <Daevien> | very vague |
| 18:20 | <Daevien> | :p |
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| 18:20 | <dKingston> | indeed. |
| 18:20 | <Yaakov> | Randall: Do you have a meat thermometer? |
| 18:20 | <HoopyCat> | do not underestimate the importance of the sear |
| 18:20 | <@caker> | !rimshot |
| 18:20 | <linbot> | http://instantrimshot.com/ |
| 18:20 | <sirpengi> | dKingston: I keep thinking he's the xkcd guy myself |
| 18:20 | <Randall> | No; I've been just cutting a bit and looking at color. |
| 18:21 | <Randall> | I have an infrared thermometer, though :P |
| 18:21 | <Randall> | I can at least tell you the surface temperature pretty accurately ... |
| 18:21 | <Yaakov> | Randall: :) Well, it's the internal temperature that's critical. |
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| 18:21 | <Yaakov> | Don't want you to contract some horrible illness. |
| 18:22 | <HoopyCat> | it is getting to be approx. supper time |
| 18:22 | <Randall> | dKingston: I'm on a lot of networks at times, though few channels :) |
| 18:22 | <Randall> | sirpengi: I am. |
| 18:22 | <Yaakov> | So, to review, it's a hot relatively fast searing of one side and a slow finish on the the other. |
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| 18:23 | <HoopyCat> | Yaakov: eh, i'm usually more concerned about surface contamination... the advantage of steak vs. ground beef is less surface area |
| 18:23 | <Randall> | Sounds doable. |
| 18:23 | <Yaakov> | HoopyCat: I have heard that about you. |
| 18:24 | <Daevien> | Randall: i wasn't goign to give that away, never know what rabid fanboys of yorus might be here :p |
| 18:24 | <Yaakov> | Jed is not *really* rabid, he just eats soap. |
| 18:24 | <Daevien> | haha |
| 18:24 | <sirpengi> | Randall: LIES |
| 18:24 | <Randall> | Daevien: I feel weird not saying when people ask about it. |
| 18:25 | <Randall> | Yaakov: Well, that's not bad; I hear soap is a good dietary source of soap. |
| 18:25 | <HoopyCat> | my mom once made me eat soap due to extensive use of unorthodox vocabulary |
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| 18:25 | <BlakeG> | I fixed the apache problem, guys. Thanks for the idea of adding some directory directives. I needed to add those in the virtual hosts file, though I find that odd as it worked before the instalation of ISPConfig, and was configured the same as far as I knew. |
| 18:25 | <HoopyCat> | ... turns out dial's actually kinda tasty |
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| 18:25 | <Yaakov> | Randall: It's true that many leading experts recommend soap for the treatment of soap deficiency. |
| 18:26 | <Yaakov> | Randall: But the studies are inconclusive. |
| 18:26 | <Randall> | One bar of soap contains over 100% of your RDA of soap. |
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| 18:26 | * | jed eats Yaakov |
| 18:26 | <@Perihelion> | Get a room |
| 18:27 | <Randall> | Applying soap topically is an excellent way to increase the amount of soap on your skin surface. |
| 18:28 | <Yaakov> | I have been taking a californium substitute because I am sure I can't get enough from my diet. |
| 18:28 | <Yaakov> | err... |
| 18:28 | <Yaakov> | BRAINO |
| 18:28 | <Yaakov> | I have been taking a californium supplement because I am sure I can't get enough from my diet. |
| 18:29 | <Yaakov> | Randall: I think the folks from the Soap Council have gotten to you. |
| 18:29 | <@Perihelion> | :> |
| 18:29 | <Randall> | I've always found Oregonium to be just as good and to have lower rates of self-absorbtion. |
| 18:29 | <Randall> | Which leaves more available for metabolic absorbtion. |
| 18:31 | <Randall> | But anyway, linodes. |
| 18:31 | <Yaakov> | I think, strictly speaking, they are 'nodes. |
| 18:31 | <Yaakov> | Linode being the mothership. |
| 18:32 | <sirpengi> | the marketing seems to say otherwise |
| 18:32 | <@Perihelion> | come sail away |
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| 18:34 | <HoopyCat> | so there's a concert down the street, with a local band called JAVA, who are (among other things) covering the works of Django Reinhardt |
| 18:34 | <dKingston> | as much as i dont like lady gaga's songs |
| 18:34 | <dKingston> | this guys rendition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cBBfglg-7Q |
| 18:34 | <dKingston> | is just so awesome |
| 18:35 | <HoopyCat> | there best be good food there, 'cuz i think the music might break my brain |
| 18:36 | <@Perihelion> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kokr4IXGpVg |
| 18:36 | <@Perihelion> | Most excellent. |
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| 18:37 | <JshWright> | I'm going to be within ~10 miles of a Bieber concert tonight... |
| 18:37 | <@pparadis> | NO |
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| 18:37 | <@Perihelion> | Kill yourself now man |
| 18:37 | <@pparadis> | JshWright: it is then your duty to do what has to be done. |
| 18:37 | <dKingston> | JshWright: may whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul |
| 18:37 | <Yaakov> | So... why is it amusing that I just recieved this? http://kovaya.com/p/sms.jpg |
| 18:38 | <Yaakov> | Oop |
| 18:38 | <JshWright> | pparadis: I'm on duty at the fire station tonight, and will be doing my best to protect and serve... |
| 18:38 | <Yaakov> | So... why is it amusing that I just recieved this? http://kovaya.com/p/sms.png |
| 18:38 | <Yaakov> | That. |
| 18:38 | <dKingston> | JshWright: you're a firefighter? |
| 18:38 | <JshWright> | dKingston: no, I just like hanging out at fire stations... |
| 18:38 | <Yaakov> | I have no idea who this person is, by the way. |
| 18:38 | <@pparadis> | a sexy firefighter |
| 18:38 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 18:38 | <dKingston> | lol |
| 18:38 | <@pparadis> | Yaakov: nice |
| 18:38 | <dKingston> | everytime i see that nick |
| 18:38 | <dKingston> | i think of YARV |
| 18:39 | <dKingston> | what is now ruby 1.9 |
| 18:39 | <Yaakov> | For some reason is it unsettling to have recieved it. |
| 18:39 | <JshWright> | dKingston: me doing public education: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/242419/fireman_josh.jpg |
| 18:40 | <dKingston> | ah |
| 18:40 | <dKingston> | props to you good sir |
| 18:40 | <JshWright> | see, you can even see my name... proof! |
| 18:41 | <Yaakov> | Here's one of JshW trying to rewire his home entertainment system: http://www.fireserviceeducators.com/sitebuilder/images/IMG_0008-203x293.jpg |
| 18:42 | <@Perihelion> | So when are you going to come here and give us fire helmets? |
| 18:42 | <JshWright> | Yaakov: that's why I carry a pair of diagonal cutters |
| 18:43 | <Yaakov> | Here's JshW ready for a night out: http://www.thecostumeshop.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/fire-fighter.jpg |
| 18:43 | <@pparadis> | no, JshWright is way hotter |
| 18:43 | <JshWright> | that's Mrs Wright |
| 18:43 | <@pparadis> | A+ |
| 18:43 | <sirpengi> | urmom? noway |
| 18:44 | <@pparadis> | sirpengi: no, you've got it all wrong. he ain't her father, but she calls him daddy. |
| 18:44 | <JshWright> | actually, she looks more like my mom than my wife (my mom's a tall blonde, my wife's a short brunette) |
| 18:44 | <Yaakov> | Sometimes he is: http://www.cityofholland.com/cihollandmius/images/Fire_firefighter%20.jpg |
| 18:44 | <@pparadis> | JshWright: you probably shouldn't have said that... |
| 18:45 | <JshWright> | pparadis: my mom's hot (as is my wife) |
| 18:45 | <@pparadis> | well, okay then :) |
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| 18:46 | <JshWright> | my mom and I are commonly mistaken for a couple if we're out together |
| 18:46 | <Yaakov> | JshWright mom is so hot she has to wear a nomex thong. |
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| 18:46 | <Yaakov> | JshWright: You are digging a hole, you know. |
| 18:46 | <@Perihelion> | And you, sir, are fornicating it. |
| 18:46 | <@pparadis> | hole... mom... oh no |
| 18:47 | <@pparadis> | aaaaaaaaaaand Perihelion got it |
| 18:47 | <@pparadis> | we're off! |
| 18:47 | <@Perihelion> | \o/ |
| 18:47 | <Yaakov> | There are certain people here who should not be allowed unfettered access to the Internet. |
| 18:47 | <@Perihelion> | Hi I'm right here |
| 18:47 | <JshWright> | Yaakov: actually, it's a Spentex thong |
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| 18:48 | <Yaakov> | JshWright: Well, I guess she's just on the cutting edge of fireproof. |
| 18:49 | <Chris___> | lolnomexthong |
| 18:49 | <Chris___> | do not want |
| 18:49 | <Yaakov> | http://www.ogracing.com/catalog/1-Driver/item-1401-2BKOOL-NOMEX-SPORTS-BRA |
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| 18:49 | <@Perihelion> | I have nomex shooting gloves |
| 18:49 | <JshWright> | Chris___: s/nomex/Spentex/ |
| 18:50 | <Chris___> | spentex? negative. I use good ole standard Globe issue Nomex ;) |
| 18:50 | <Yaakov> | Why would you want to shoot nomex? |
| 18:50 | <@Perihelion> | Because it's the Devil's work |
| 18:50 | <JshWright> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ1RKJjI0Gg |
| 18:50 | <@Perihelion> | Idk |
| 18:50 | <Yaakov> | Oh, wait, do you mean the glove shoot nomex? |
| 18:50 | <Yaakov> | s |
| 18:50 | <JshWright> | Chris___: we use spentex hoods |
| 18:50 | <Chris___> | I use an awesome carbon something PGI hood I bought |
| 18:51 | <Yaakov> | JshWright: I prefer 1" thick asbestos. |
| 18:51 | <Chris___> | because standard issue hoods usually don't offer very much vapor protection |
| 18:51 | <JshWright> | Chris___: spentex is absolutely amazing... the hoods are light enough that they're actually translucent |
| 18:51 | <Chris___> | yeah, do not want |
| 18:52 | <JshWright> | bah... ambulance call... |
| 18:52 | <JshWright> | back later |
| 18:52 | <Yaakov> | FIRE RETARDANT FABRIC WARS |
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| 18:52 | <Yaakov> | Wait... translucent... thong.... |
| 18:53 | <mdcollins> | Awesome. |
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| 18:58 | * | Yaakov is away: electrical fire in my hair |
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| 19:09 | <BarkerJr> | I'm scared my linodes will be blown away by a hurricane :/ |
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| 19:11 | <BarkerJr> | do they have enough canned food and bottled water? |
| 19:11 | <Daevien> | BarkerJr: jed sucks, not blows |
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| 19:22 | <Keith> | Are there any users on this channel that use wp as there website CMS? |
| 19:22 | <Yaakov> | I LOVE YOU ALL WITH A GREAT HUGE LOVE |
| 19:22 | <Keith> | I''d like someone to visit http://keithnet.us, and read the first post. As you'll notice, my links and other HTML tags show up as plain HTML tags right in the page. And I don't know why. Any ieas on what happened? Thanks. |
| 19:22 | <Keith> | ideas* |
| 19:23 | <sirpengi> | content is being escaped |
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| 19:23 | <Keith> | So how do I fixt aht? |
| 19:23 | <sirpengi> | not sure |
| 19:23 | <sirpengi> | how did you insert that content? |
| 19:23 | <sirpengi> | through the wordpress admin? |
| 19:24 | <mdcollins> | Wordpress admin allows html though.. |
| 19:24 | <purrdeta> | only if you click the HTML part |
| 19:24 | * | Keith added a post that way yeah And manually typed most of the code-but still.. |
| 19:24 | <sirpengi> | it might be 1) your wysiwyg editor escaping those, 2) database screwed up, 3) template is screwed up, 4) you put it in wrong |
| 19:24 | <purrdeta> | which you might not have done |
| 19:25 | <Keith> | O |
| 19:25 | <Keith> | I didn't do that. |
| 19:25 | <Keith> | I forgot to click it, so what you're basically saying is I've got a plain-text page. |
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| 19:26 | <Keith> | Okay I'll go and update it. |
| 19:26 | <Deezire> | Man, Iceland has produced some fantastic music. |
| 19:26 | <Deezire> | http://open.spotify.com/track/6eTGxxQxiTFE6LfZHC33Wm |
| 19:27 | <sirpengi> | darn you europeans and your spotify |
| 19:28 | <Deezire> | Oh, i totally forgot! |
| 19:28 | <Keith> | Hmm. I just used dig on a command line, and I was curious if I needed to put something else int he name box of the txt record? I was trying to make an spf record in txt format. I put the v= stuff without quotes, and put keithnet.us as the name,, but it hasn't taken effect. |
| 19:28 | <Deezire> | sirpengi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkP_NaMsrMM |
| 19:29 | <Deezire> | Begins very slowly, mind you! |
| 19:29 | <Yaakov> | I don't know... it seems to be moving at about 1 second per second. |
| 19:30 | <Yaakov> | Just kidding! I am not watching it! |
| 19:30 | <Deezire> | You should :) |
| 19:30 | <Yaakov> | Nah. I am a musical stick-in-the-mud. I have fixed tastes and will not enjoy it. |
| 19:31 | <Deezire> | Do you know what i posted? :) |
| 19:31 | <Yaakov> | Something Icelandic. |
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| 19:35 | <mdcollins> | Keith, how long ago did you add the spf record? |
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| 19:38 | <BarkerJr> | spf rocks |
| 19:42 | <BarkerJr> | wunderground went down due to overload |
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| 19:58 | <jblack> | Be nice if irc.linode.com were a CNAME for irc.oftc.net. =) |
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| 20:00 | <jblack> | Apparently the system that my node is hosted on was giving trouble, and Jed migrated the host to a new machine. That's nice. That leaves me wondering, though, what sort of redundancy is on the backend. |
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| 20:04 | <jblack> | in other words, does linode have redundancy to protect against a 1.21 gigawatt power surge, or is it my responsibility? |
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| 20:05 | <encode> | jblack: your responsibility |
| 20:05 | <bliblok> | You'd be protected if you got nodes in two or more different datacenters. |
| 20:05 | <encode> | jblack: linode runs some redundancy, like raid 1 for disks, but backups, high availability, etc are all up to you |
| 20:05 | <jblack> | I'm not concerned about reasonable downtime. |
| 20:05 | <encode> | if the host hardware dies catastrophically, you get a shiny new blank linode |
| 20:06 | <Yaakov> | There are managed backups. |
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| 20:06 | <jblack> | Thank, that answers the question quite directly, encode. |
| 20:06 | * | jblack tarballs up /etc |
| 20:06 | <encode> | i think the number of times that's happened can be counted on one hand though, which is pretty good considering they're over 7 years old now |
| 20:06 | <Yaakov> | There are managed backups. |
| 20:06 | <jblack> | Yaakov: As a fee based service? |
| 20:06 | <Yaakov> | Yes. |
| 20:06 | <Yaakov> | Cheap, though. |
| 20:07 | <encode> | i like the managed backups. They're done at the disk level |
| 20:07 | <encode> | you can restore to a new linode or the same one |
| 20:07 | <jblack> | I might be interested in paying for that, if it's cheap relative to what they charge for linodes. =) |
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| 20:07 | <encode> | definitely something to consider, if you can afford it |
| 20:08 | <jblack> | 5 bucks a month |
| 20:08 | <encode> | and if you're not implementing some form of high availability |
| 20:08 | <jblack> | I spent more than that buying friends foo-foo drinks at starbucks today. |
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| 20:08 | <jblack> | Nope. No crital path services here. Just a dns server, mail server & uucp. |
| 20:09 | <jblack> | probably a couple drupal sites. |
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| 20:17 | <Keith> | Does anyone know what FTP server ISPConfig uses? It was showing me that one or more needed services were offline. And I think the only one it's mentioned is the ftp functionality. ;) |
| 20:18 | <Keith> | Other than that, my databases, etc seem to be okay. |
| 20:22 | <Yaakov> | |
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| 20:30 | <@Perihelion> | |
| 20:30 | <encode> | jblack: why would you not expect it to work? |
| 20:31 | <mdcollins> | Ahh! Blank messages! What do I do?!?! |
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| 20:37 | <encode> | mdcollins: _respond_ with overly nOn BlAnK _messages_ |
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| 20:37 | <mdcollins> | Okay, good. That's what I've been doing. |
| 20:37 | <mdcollins> | *whew* |
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| 20:48 | <jblack> | I expected it to work. I didn't expect to backup a 20 meg /etc over a crappy dsl line in the space of about 5 seconds. |
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| 20:49 | <sirpengi> | the pipe | works using quantum entanglement, didn't you know? |
| 20:52 | <bd_> | jblack: /etc tends to be quite compressible :) |
| 20:52 | <jblack> | bd_ Yeah... 90% or so. |
| 20:53 | <mdcollins> | Well, it is text and text compresses very well.. |
| 20:53 | <encode> | I find /proc compresses well too ;) |
| 20:54 | <jblack> | Heh. |
| 20:54 | <mdcollins> | It's those damned binaries that don't compress so well. |
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| 20:55 | <danieldg> | given that /proc/kcore is sparse, yeah, it does :) |
| 20:55 | <encode> | I do have a lot of trouble compressing /dev/urandom |
| 20:55 | <encode> | keep running out of disk space |
| 20:55 | <danieldg> | takes a while to read though... -r-------- 1 root root 128T Sep 2 00:55 /proc/kcore |
| 20:57 | <Keith> | Are there any ways to test to insure that a Linode is not an open-relay? I need to test this. |
| 20:58 | <encode> | Keith: google's first result was http://www.checkor.com/ |
| 20:58 | <danieldg> | attempt to forward through it |
| 20:58 | <encode> | I guess that's a good start |
| 20:59 | <encode> | ooh, mail.linode.com failed the last test on that page |
| 20:59 | <mdcollins> | Or http://www.abuse.net/relay.html |
| 21:00 | <encode> | mdcollins: that was the second result on google. It's clearly inferior ;) |
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| 21:00 | <mdcollins> | encode, on my google search it was first. :-p |
| 21:00 | <mdcollins> | And my 2nd was http://www.spamhelp.org/shopenrelay/ |
| 21:01 | <encode> | your google search fails |
| 21:01 | <mdcollins> | Yours was listed as 3rd. |
| 21:01 | <jblack> | urandom compresses great with lossy codecs. =) |
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| 21:01 | * | mdcollins searched for open relay test |
| 21:02 | <mdcollins> | Which is obviously the superior search term.. |
| 21:04 | <Keith> | Okay I entered my mail server, mail.keithnet.us, and got a connection refused. So does that mean I'm not an open realay? I used encodes suggestion of http://www.checkor.com/ |
| 21:04 | <linbot> | New news from forums: IPv6 in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2978>; |
| 21:04 | <mdcollins> | Although, dnsgoodies.com looks like they have some good tools.. Shame about the layout (it's all in a narrow column on the left) |
| 21:05 | * | encode searched for test open relay |
| 21:05 | <encode> | pretty funny |
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| 21:06 | <encode> | Keith: good news is that mail.keithnet.us is not an open relay. Bad news is that it's not a closed relay either. Your mail server is refusing connections on port 25 |
| 21:06 | <Keith> | Oi! |
| 21:07 | <encode> | which effectively makes it not a mail server |
| 21:07 | <Keith> | I ran it on mail.linode.com and 220 www.linode.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.6/8.9.1; Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:06:31 -0400 |
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| 21:07 | <Keith> | Maybe Caker or someone needs to secure mail.Linode.com |
| 21:07 | <mdcollins> | Keith, did you open port 25? Connection refused typically means a firewall is blocking it. |
| 21:07 | * | Keith glares at Caker. Why the hell, are you running an openRelay! And you folks talking about security for Linode servers? What a backwards bullshit thing that is. |
| 21:08 | <encode> | linode isn't running an open relay |
| 21:08 | <Keith> | Oh |
| 21:08 | <Keith> | Weird |
| 21:08 | <Keith> | Um |
| 21:08 | <Keith> | My mail serveri s listening on port 25 as far as I know |
| 21:08 | <encode> | it isn't currently |
| 21:08 | <Keith> | Can anyone reach a mail server at keithnet.us port 25? |
| 21:08 | <encode> | $ telnet mail.keithnet.us 25 |
| 21:08 | <encode> | Trying <ip removed>... |
| 21:08 | <encode> | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 21:09 | <Keith> | Okay..well postfix is online..according to this control pannel. |
| 21:09 | <mdcollins> | That's a firewall for ya.. |
| 21:09 | <Keith> | Let me check that |
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| 21:13 | <Keith> | Hmm |
| 21:13 | * | mdcollins likes /proc/kcore |
| 21:13 | * | BarkerJr is scared |
| 21:14 | <mdcollins> | I wish I had a kcore of 128T.. |
| 21:16 | <Keith> | There isn't a firewall, I know that much. |
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| 21:17 | <Keith> | If I try to telnet to the mail server on my box I get an error teling me it can't resolve the domain..so what's going on? |
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| 21:19 | <@caker> | Keith: mail.linode.com is not an open relay. Check your facts, please. |
| 21:21 | <avenj> | guess this means I have to stop trying to send all this spam |
| 21:21 | <Keith> | Sorry |
| 21:21 | <chrisA> | Now there's no reason to set caker on fire :( |
| 21:22 | <Keith> | But I didn't. |
| 21:22 | <Keith> | I don't think |
| 21:22 | <chrisA> | I can't actually make sense of why one day thunderbird smtp-auth stopped working with my dovecot setup a few weeks back |
| 21:22 | <chrisA> | evolution, webOS mail, etc all work fine still |
| 21:22 | <chrisA> | I went nuts thinking mail in general didn't work |
| 21:22 | <Keith> | caker |
| 21:23 | <Keith> | Oops...damn it.. |
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| 21:23 | <Keith> | Hit the wrong key in my client, Caker: Please ignore that. |
| 21:23 | <Keith> | I was focussed on your nick when I hit that too. |
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| 21:24 | <sirpengi> | oh wow, someone took hostages at the Discovery Channel |
| 21:26 | <danielHome> | looks to me like dallas182.linode.com is dying again |
| 21:26 | <Keith> | Dying how? |
| 21:27 | <bd_> | Keith: what made you think mail.linode.com is an open relay? >_>; |
| 21:27 | <Keith> | Oh. |
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| 21:27 | <danielHome> | can't get to the SSH, and my linode is kinda gone |
| 21:28 | <sirpengi> | how about LISH? |
| 21:28 | <danielHome> | I was speaking of the LISH SSH |
| 21:28 | <danielHome> | ssh: connect to host dallas182.linode.com port 22: Connection timed out |
| 21:29 | <sirpengi> | it's just slow |
| 21:29 | <danielHome> | there's already a ticket open, so I'm not sure if I should just comment on it or if it's being worked on already |
| 21:29 | <sirpengi> | I've got a password prompt |
| 21:29 | <sirpengi> | no login though, so I can't get in |
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| 21:29 | <danielHome> | hmm, it's responding, but excessively slow |
| 21:30 | <danielHome> | I just got an update on an SSH session I have running |
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| 21:52 | <Takyoji> | Anyone know the practicality of applying grsecurity to an Ubuntu 10.04 (64-bit) installation on Linode? |
| 21:54 | <BarkerJr> | security is overrated |
| 21:55 | <linbot> | New news from wiki: Talk:IPv6 <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:IPv6&diff=4228&oldid=prev>; |
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| 21:58 | <danieldg> | Takyoji: no reason it wouldn't work |
| 21:58 | <Nivex> | BarkerJr: given how much went into getting London stood up, I doubt there will be any exodus |
| 21:58 | <danieldg> | assuming grsec doesn't conflict with xen or anything stupid like that |
| 21:59 | <danieldg> | selinux certainly works fine |
| 21:59 | <BarkerJr> | Nivex: right, and everyone's known atlanta is the worst DC for ipv4, and that never stopped anyone |
| 21:59 | <Nivex> | ATL is a pretty hefty peering point for the southeast |
| 22:00 | <BarkerJr> | but they block a lot of ports |
| 22:00 | <Nivex> | just IRC as far as I know |
| 22:00 | <Nivex> | but that did weigh into my decision when I joined up |
| 22:00 | <BarkerJr> | http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Atlanta_Port_Filtering |
| 22:00 | <BarkerJr> | that's a few more than irc |
| 22:01 | <Nivex> | hmm, yeah |
| 22:01 | <BarkerJr> | why would you block daytime? that's the protocol windows uses to sync |
| 22:02 | <danieldg> | windows doesn't use NTP? |
| 22:03 | <tjfontaine> | depends on the day of the week and ATLs router configs, I've tested and had no port filtering before |
| 22:03 | <Battousai> | you lie. you tested 127.0.0.1 |
| 22:04 | <BarkerJr> | I think older versions of windows use daytime, but w7 uses ntp |
| 22:04 | <tjfontaine> | Battousai: ok joe |
| 22:04 | <BarkerJr> | I tested the same and found no blocked ports |
| 22:04 | <BarkerJr> | but the official word from ATL is don't count on it |
| 22:06 | <Nivex> | tj! they gonna let you out to OLF? |
| 22:07 | <tjfontaine> | Nivex: there's a high probability, I'm hoping to |
| 22:07 | <Nivex> | score! |
| 22:07 | <tjfontaine> | in fact I may turn my notice in for the contract next week |
| 22:07 | <Nivex> | ouch. that bad, eh? |
| 22:08 | <tjfontaine> | or significantly restructure it |
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| 22:08 | <opello> | good to hear |
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| 22:08 | <tjfontaine> | opello: indeed. |
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| 22:08 | <opello> | (restructure anyway) |
| 22:08 | <tjfontaine> | looks like HE is shedding users |
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| 22:08 | <tjfontaine> | opello: ya |
| 22:09 | <chesty> | don't be so sexist |
| 22:09 | <chesty> | it could be a she |
| 22:09 | <opello> | haha |
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| 22:41 | <HoopyCat> | odds of gotowebinar working from an attendee's linux desktop: |
| 22:41 | <tjfontaine> | 65% |
| 22:41 | <@Perihelion> | 30% |
| 22:44 | <HoopyCat> | 5% |
| 22:44 | <chesty> | $10-1 |
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| 23:35 | <d-b> | Perihelion: 100% |
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| --- | Log | closed Thu Sep 02 00:00:15 2010 |
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